* Richard Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-03-13 11:11]:
> Paul Durrant wrote:
> >On 3/13/07, John Plocher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> Paul Durrant writes:
> >>>>The current ON processes are just wrong for open source.
> >>
> >>The ON development process forces developers to look beyond
> >>the current confines of their project and understand/manage
> >>the impact that their development choices have on others.
> >>
> 
> That's true of most parts of the process, yes.  But as Paul says below, 
> supplying Sun with hardware is not one of those parts (I'd be less 
> concerned if the entity was actual an OpenSolaris entity, but it isn't.  
> It's *one* distributor).
> 
> I agree, that there are testing requirements, and there should be.  But I 
> don't think "give Sun hardware" should be one of them, if anything it's 
> Sun's responsibility to acquire said hardware via whatever means it 
> chooses, not a requirement for the one *integrating* to gift it.
> 
> >I don't see how giving h/w to Sun does this. I can see how that is
> >required for a driver to be included in Sun's Solaris distro, but
> >availability of h/w has no bearing on quality of source code.
> >As I see it, ON should allow source in that passes architecture and
> >peer code reviews. The distros should test, and if problems are found
> >CRs should be raised. Why should one distro vendor's testing gate
> >integration into the common source?

  Although I agree that there are problems with a "give Sun hardware"
  policy, I am less convinced that there shouldn't be some contributor,
  not employed by the device manufacturer, able to test that, with the
  device installed, the software actually functions according to the
  architectural specification.  In particular, and even for devices
  where economics apparently preclude such distribution, I'm not sure
  it's in the *community's* interest to vouch for unknown device code by
  virtue of being integrated into the mainline.

  - Stephen

-- 
Stephen Hahn, PhD  Solaris Kernel Development, Sun Microsystems
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