On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 03:49 -0700, ken mays wrote: > Hello, > > Seems like the previous post from Matty mentions more > of the 'commercial' applications moreso than the open > source ones. > > This is more of a developer support stance from the > corporate 'commercial' ISVs/IHVs. Getting Solaris into > the hands of the right commercial developers, > supporting those developers, and making sure the > developers have enough developer-type documentation to > get the job done [i.e. to port/migrate the apps to > Solaris with minimal fuss].
Right. The question is how to attract developers to start porting their apps on OpenSolaris? I think documentation and Sun-support forums are not enough. In addition, we need to create(and populate) a truly developer-oriented environment. i.e. Operating System for OpenSolaris developers. Where developer will enjoy creating its art while spending big chunk of his life. I think it is important to understand. From this stand point, GCC-like and GNU-like environments are must to have and we are moving this road... aka NexentaOS GNU/OpenSolaris. > A few ISVs for Sun Solaris x86 ported 'commercial' > software and application suites to Solaris - yet it > takes time to get build environments in place. Also, > the conflict of interest in which frameworks/APIs to > use over the other. Saying you want certain > application suites and application software for > Solaris is really saying you want the > software/hardware dependencies taken care of as well. > Then, there is the software maintenance issues... > > Yet, a lot of this was discussed between Solaris > developers/consultants and Sun many times over at > developer conferences, forums, and web talks. > > Basically, it is the corporate companies hiring and/or > training their developers to migrate their products to > Sun Solaris (all platforms) which they might deem as > 'profitable' or just supportive to their customers. > Sun may just provide influence and portfolios on > Solaris end-users that are requesting certain > commercial applications on Solaris. > > There are the other issues in play, yet I'll let > someone else elaborate on those.... > > ~ Ken Mays > > > > > > > ---------------------------- > Hi Kaiwai et al, > > If you want to see software for Solaris x86/x64 you > should consider > having a look to NexentaOS http://www.gnusolaris.org > Erast and Alex are > working really hard to build all software using GCC. > 9000+ packages > now... > > I must confess that i started to > build/patching/porting OpenOffice.org > using GCC and encountered several problems in GCC > (3.4.x)... so i ended > up building OpenOffice.org using Sun Studio 10 > instead. I believe that > apart from OpenOffice.org the rest of the packages > including Gnome have > been rebuild... > > Ideally I will like to build OpenOffice.org using only > GNU development > tools. If anyone if it is interested to join this > effort, drop me or > NexentaOS a line. Having GCC 4.1 bug-free in Solaris > x86 is an > important > milestone. > > Alberto > > On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 18:53 +1200, Kaiwai Gardiner > wrote: > > On 5/28/06, Alan DuBoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Saturday 27 May 2006 11:27 pm, Kaiwai Gardiner > wrote: > > > > The sad part, these people think from quarter to > quarter, where > as I > > > > prefer looking 5 years time; where are the > products, where is the > > > > marketing heading, and are we going to meet > those market changes? > > > > > > I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying that in > the past 5 years > there > > > hasn't been much gain with software for Solaris > x86/x64? > > > > Nope, I'm saying that, in general terms, when > executives made > > decisions, they're more concerned about the > immediate profits rather > > than long terms sustainable revenue and > profitability - its like > > cutting R&D, might give a boost in profits in the > near term, but in > > terms of the long term, the competitiveness of the > company falls > > behind, thus impacting on the long term > profitability of a company. > > Hence the reason I admired Scott when he and his > company refused to > > buckle under the pressure of cutting R&D. > > > > As for the last 5 years - name 5 high profile, main > stream, software > > titles that have come to Solaris x86 - not drivers > like OSS, or > > plugins like Flash/Shockwave or Real, but > application suites like > > MYOB, Peachtree accounting etc. etc. > > > > You're not going to grow the adoption of Solaris x86 > either as a > > workstation operating system or as an operating > system for > centralised > > processing, aka SUN Ray, if there are no mainstream > software titles > > available for it, and the problem is made worse by > the fact that no > > move by making JDS not only the official blessed > desktop of Solaris, > > but the API and platform to which application > vendors should write > > their applications to. > > > > Matty > > _______________________________________________ > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > -- Erast _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
