On 7/21/05, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is the exact same approach that Linux takes. The only way to patch a 
> software subsystem through the OS interfaces is to do `rpm -u` which goes and 
> [I]replaces the entire software subsystem[/I] in order to "update" it.
> This is very much busted. For example, SuSE is most notorious for breaking 
> production systems in this way, especially when they do kernel updates with 
> YaST.

Actually, SuSE's RPM update system uses special patch RPMs that are
not the entire software subsystem over again.

> We really don't want Linux "developers" on board; those guys are hackers that 
> are going to bust stuff by "improving" it. What we want are professional 
> developers picking (Open)Solaris as a free, better alternative to everything 
> else out there.
> 

I would caution you against speaking for other people. I certainly
don't mind if Linux "developers" join the community. The community is
*open*, to all who care to participate regardless of where they came
from. I don't have to necessarily agree with their views, but they're
more than welcome to participate. So, please don't use "We".

> Why should the Linux community benefit? What have they given to Solaris 
> except "it works on my Linux system, if it doesn't work for you, use Linux! 
> Everybody should just use Linux!"
> 

Possibly because of the "Linux community" there is a large set of free
software available for any Operating System community to use. We have
them and many others to thank for the resources. We're all in this
together, let's not take a divisionist attitude.

> No, that was NOT the reason why Solaris has been released to the public! 
> Solaris was not released so that the Linux crowd could bastardize it into 
> another Linux distro, but to evolve further as Solaris!
> 

I'm sorry, but that's wrong. OpenSolaris was released to "share", and
the terms of the license don't say anything about what you're ranting
on. While I personally may not agree with the view of taking the
Solaris kernel and marrying it to a completely GNU userland, that
doesn't mean that it "wasn't released for that". It was released for
whatever folks want to do with it.

We're all part of a bigger community, try to understand that and stop
making East / West Berlin style speeches. Many of us maintain and
develop software for multiple operating systems, of which Solaris is
just one (even if it is perhaps our favourite one sometimes).

-- 
Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/
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