Flemming Futtrup wrote:
> Info : Flash Manufacturer/Device: 0x00bf 0x236d
>
> Error: Could not probe bank: no QRY
>
> Try workaround w/0x555 instead of 0x55 to get QRY.
>
> Error: Could not probe bank: no QRY
>
> Error: auto_probe failed -900
>
>
>
> At this point I assumed that the concerned Flash device is a NON_CFI device.
>   
It seems so, although the datasheet talk about CFI support.

However, the datasheet talks about a three-byte command to enter CFI
mode, which is in conflict with the CFI spec. I remember some older SST
flashs had the same problem (and when using the 3-byte sequence, the CFI
tables were present, but broken).

If the 39VF6401B behaves like that, it is probably best to treat it as a
non-CFI device.

> All this does not help me very much as I cannot flash anything to this flash, 
> here are my observations: 
> 1. I can get a flash info and then all blocks are in a "protection state 
> unknown" condition. This can be solved by applying a "flash protect_check 1". 
> Then a "flash info 1" says that every block is protected. 
> 2. I can disable the "working area" and then it seems to flash but very 
> slowly and pretty useless with an 8M flash. This leads me into thinking that 
> chipselect and all these things are OK.?
>   
It also means that the command set and programming algorithm work fine.
Without the workspace, the whole programming algorithm runs on the host,
using seperate word accesses to the flash.

> 3. The flash I am using is identified to have "CFI Query string" where " 
> Primary OEM command set = 0002H @ address 13H" Whereas my Embedde Aritist 
> board flash that works nicely has a "command set = 01H". 
>   
01 is Intel/Sharp, 02 is AMD/Fujitsu. The commands in the datasheet seem
to match the AMD command set, so using that seems fine. Since other
AMD-style flashs work fine, this is probably not the problem.

> My OpenOCD 0.3.1 is simply throwing this kind of message after me :
>
>  
>
> non-cfi flash: 
>
> mfr: 0x00bf, id:0x236d 
>
> Error: timed out while waiting for target halted 
> Error: error writing to flash at address 0x80000000 at offset 0x00000000 
> (-902)
>   
So something goes wrong when running the programming algorithm on the
target. One possible area would be the command-completion check, where
the toggle/error bits differ between manufacturers.


> Here are some more observations, which might be relevant:
>
> The SST39VF6401B and SST39VF6401 are not the same e.g. Primary OEM command 
> set are 01H vs 02H
>   
When running the programming algorithm on target (with working area),
can you program the SST39VF6401 flash on the same board? What about a
different flash with command set 02 (eg. Spansion)?

The question being: is this a problem with the SST flash, or is this a
general problem with target-based programming on the CPU you use?

> The SST39VFXX01 and SSTVFXX02 differs in working with Top vs Bottom boot 
> blocks, whatever that means...
>   
That is only the sector layout - bootblock flashs have some sectors that
are smaller than the majority of sectors, for storing bootcode, and
these may be at the beginning or at the end of the flash - which variant
you need depends on where your CPU fetches its reset vector.

> Q1: Does any of the things I did make sence (someone suggested that the 
> device really is a CFI Flash and my effort is a waste of time - how can I 
> know)? 
>   
After a close look at the datasheet, I think you did the right thing -
SST claims the flash to be CFI compliant, but the datasheet tells that
it is not.

> Q3: Does this "command set" difference mean that I am in the same kind of 
> trouble as some of the other people I read about are having? 
>   
I do not know what kind of trouble you are talking about - I can't
remember any unresolved CFI/non-CFI flash problems related to command
sets on this list in the lasts few months. Do you have a pointer to such
a discussion?

cu
Michael

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