Thanks Sebastian

It could be a great feature for OM .

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:45 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hasan,
>
> from what I've seen and read bigbluebutton exactly suffers from the issues
> that I've described in my last email. You might just review their list of
> limitations.
>
> There might be other solutions for solving server side recording, for
> example the way Alexei described it.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> 2012/7/21 Hasan Gharehasanloo <hasan.gh...@gmail.com>
>
>> Thanks everybody.
>>
>> I think BigBlueButton team have had a successful experience about this
>> issue. Cant OM team follow their way???
>> Or cant we eliminate some elements from recordings and just record
>> important element in server-side recording???
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 6:29 PM, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't see an issue in writing RTMP on server side.
>>> Many Open Source projects do that.
>>> The Audio/Video part is also not the main point on recording conference
>>> sessions. In fact we already do that.
>>> The Audio/Video part is actually the easiest thing on recording a
>>> Web-Conference.
>>>
>>> The real issue are all the other conference sources like: whiteboard,
>>> chat, the whole conference room, screensharing and all the other UI
>>> elements.
>>> A recording should show a 1:1 copy of what you see in the conference
>>> from my point of view and not a mockup of different sources that get
>>> somehow synced. We had something like that in the past and it was nothing
>>> else then a source of pain.
>>> You can't seek, you can't download the recording, you can't share the
>>> recording on youtube.
>>> And if the recording is longer then 20 minutes whiteboard and
>>> audio/video is often out of sync, especially if you have more then 2
>>> participants in a room that share audio/video. In fact there was no chance
>>> of producing recordings that are longer then 30 or 45 minutes without
>>> syncronization issues.
>>> That is no alternative for our current approach at least from my point
>>> of view.
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/7/21 Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> RTMP is Adobe protocol we use to stream video and some other data. It's
>>>> prohibited by Adobe to get video from RTMP and write it to some storage.
>>>> You call it server side recording.
>>>>
>>>> The first thing to resolve with server side recording is a legal thing.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 5:30 PM, George Kirkham <gkirk...@co2crc.com.au
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hasan,  My thoughts exactly, “But what does it exactly means????”.  **
>>>>> **
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Hasan Gharehasanloo [mailto:hasan.gh...@gmail.com]
>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, 21 July 2012 7:44 PM
>>>>> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Read about some great recommendations for improvements
>>>>> to the Openmeetings user interface****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Alexei
>>>>>
>>>>> But what does it exactly means????****
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Alexei Fedotov <
>>>>> alexei.fedo...@gmail.com> wrote:****
>>>>>
>>>>> From RTMP license:****
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/rtmp.html****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> Prohibited Uses ****
>>>>>
>>>>> The rights and licenses granted by Adobe in the RTMP Specification,
>>>>> including those granted in ****
>>>>>
>>>>> the Patent License, are conditioned upon Your agreement to use the
>>>>> RTMP Specification for only ****
>>>>>
>>>>> streaming video, audio and/or data content and not to make, have made,
>>>>> use, sell, offer to sell, ****
>>>>>
>>>>> import or distribute: (i) any technology that intercepts streaming
>>>>> video, audio and/or data ****
>>>>>
>>>>> content for storage in any device or medium; or (ii) any technology
>>>>> that  circumvents ****
>>>>>
>>>>> technological measures for the protection of audio, video and/or data
>>>>> content, including any of ****
>>>>>
>>>>> Adobe’s secure RTMP measures. No right or license to any Adobe
>>>>> intellectual property is granted ****
>>>>>
>>>>> for such prohibited uses.****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ****
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 4:26 AM, jero <j...@muaks.org> wrote:****
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 to server side room recording, configurable/selectable by moderator
>>>>> and/or room type.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>    jero
>>>>>    bits, pitos y flautas****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ---------------------------------
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>> Hassan Gharehasanloo****
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sebastian Wagner
>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>>> seba.wag...@gmail.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ---------------------------------
>> Best Regards
>> Hassan Gharehasanloo
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wag...@gmail.com
>



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