I think making the default completely transparent makes sense. Then users
can change from there as needed.

Dan

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 3:57 AM, George Kirkham <gkirk...@co2crc.com.au>wrote:

> Sebastian,****
>
> ** **
>
> Storing these settings in a cookie would be a nice touch but if it means
> extra work,  let’s make it as easy as possible.  ****
>
> ** **
>
> One issue for using cookies is that if you use different PCs then you have
> to remember to make the setting again. The Cookie would certainly help with
> people who like to use a favourite colour.****
>
> ** **
>
> For me, simply having the default for fill to be turned off would be great
> as I don’t use the fill at all. If you were going to use fill, turning it
> on and selecting the colour you want should not be that much of an issue?*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> Just to ask, do you use the fill colour much?  If people do, then having
> the cookies would be a great bonus.  I guess I never actually create images
> on the white board, just draw on an uploaded slides or documents. ****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* seba.wag...@gmail.com [mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 4:59 PM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Request for improvement - Square and Ellipse default to no
> fill colour****
>
> ** **
>
> Hi George,
>
> I would propose to store settings like: Default fill color, default line
> color, default transparency and default line size in the user profile or
> cookie data. That way the default settings are just like the ones you have
> choosen the last time.
>
> Sebastian****
>
> 2012/5/11 George Kirkham <gkirk...@co2crc.com.au>****
>
> Hi,****
>
>  ****
>
> I would like to know your views on having the Square and Ellipse tools
> default to “no fill colour”.****
>
>  ****
>
> I find that myself and others want to circle words or images in
> presentations, and keep forgetting to turn off the fill colour.  Since I
> have never bothered to use the fill colour, my suggestion is to have the
> fill colour turned off by default, and then people have to enable and
> select a colour, to have the Square or Ellipse filled with a colour.****
>
>  ****
>
> If it is found that there are those who want the fill colour enabled by
> default and another group who want it disabled by default, then could the
> default be a configuration option, e.g. FillDefault 0 = a default is no
> fill colour, 1 = the default is to have a fill colour.****
>
>  ****
>
> Thanks,****
>
>  ****
>
> George Kirkham****
>
>  ****
>
> IT Manager****
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) ****
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia****
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600****
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181****
>
> E: gkirk...@co2crc.com.au, ****
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* aplusad...@aplustutoring.com [mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Daniel Ascher
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 9:57 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Request for improvement****
>
>  ****
>
> Is this only in OM 2.0, because I don't see this in the prior version?
>
> Dan****
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:37 PM, George Kirkham <gkirk...@co2crc.com.au>
> wrote:****
>
> Sebastian,****
>
>  ****
>
> I have noticed that when a person joins a room, any video windows from
> other users who are already in the room load up over the top of their
> “Choose Devices” Window.  This makes it difficult for them to select
> settings (until they move all of the video Windows out of the way).  It
> would be much better if the “Choose Devices” Window could be the top most
> (i.e. above/on top the Video Windows).****
>
>  ****
>
> Users who are not intimately familiar with OpenMeetings get confused
> because they don’t see the “Choose Devices” dialog.****
>
>  ****
>
> Thanks,****
>
>  ****
>
> George Kirkham****
>
>  ****
>
> IT Manager****
>
> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) ****
>
> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia****
>
> T: (02) 6120 1600****
>
> F: (02) 6273 7181****
>
> E: gkirk...@co2crc.com.au, ****
>
> W: www.co2crc.com.au****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* George Kirkham [mailto:gkirk...@co2crc.com.au]
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 7:31 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* But if there is anything I can do to further this effort,
> please let me know!****
>
>  ****
>
> Dan, Sergey, Stephen, (and to myself),****
>
>  ****
>
> Do you have an environment where you can test the stability/reliability of
> OpenMeetings.  For example where several or more people can use
> OpenMeetings and report on any issues, and the try to repeat the same issue
> on another day.****
>
>  ****
>
> A clear, methodical approach to observing, and then identifying how to
> repeat issues really help developers.  It is even better if you can match
> the issue with entries in the log files.****
>
>  ****
>
> While my OpenMeetings installation has been very good most of the time,
> there are instances where some of my “test” users in conference rooms have
> become unstable, but so far I have not had the time to be able to repeat
> the issue frequently enough to identify why (or to match the problem
> occurrences with an entries in the red5/log/*.log).  These issues have not
> been too serious, closing the browser and logging back in to the room fixes
> most, on a few occasions I have had to reboot my PC.  I have also observed
> more issues when the PC is wirelessly connect (wireless LAN), which could
> be related to my Wireless router.****
>
>  ****
>
> My hope is that if there is enough of us “users of OpenMeetings”, we can
> identify issues, check with each other to see if the others can also create
> the same issue, thus confirm the problem is not just with our own
> environment, and be able to report an issue in a way that the developers
> can more easily identify and fix. I am sure that they have limited time to
> which the can contribute to OpenMeetings so if we can identify repeatable
> issues and rule out any personal environmental problems, it should help in
> reducing the reporting of problems which are not due to OpenMeetings itself.
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> So my request for Dan, Sergey, Stephen and others is, “when I report an
> issue or a suggestion, please, when you have time, check my statements in
> your own OpenMeetings environements and see if what I say is correct or a
> worthwhile suggestion and then report back.  Especially if I make a
> suggestion for an improvement for something that I would like but it does
> not make sense to you, or even better, you see an even more effective way
> the improvement can be implemented (e.g. let’s do some brain storming).
> Sometimes the most simplest of ideas are the greatest.  For example, “one
> tool that OpenMeetings whiteboad does not currently have is a highlighter,
> like the highlighter pens”. ****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> Thanks,****
>
>  ****
>
> George Kirkham****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* aplusad...@aplustutoring.com 
> [mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com<aplusad...@aplustutoring.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *Daniel Ascher
> *Sent:* Friday, 11 May 2012 2:29 AM
> *To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: exclusive audio in Build #68****
>
>  ****
>
> I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I
> am not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is
> anything I can do to further this effort, please let me know!
>
> Dan Ascher****
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:****
>
> I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around
> with thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
> strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
> incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.****
>
>  ****
>
> Thank you.****
>
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
> President
> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
> "Creating Bright Futures"
>
> 505 York Road, Suite 6
> Jenkintown, PA 19046
> Office: 215.886.9188
> Direct: 267.242.9640
> www.aplustutoring.com****
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wag...@gmail.com****
>



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