Hi Nick, I don't see any reliable framework or implementation that is production ready and will provide a HTML5 solution for Video-Conferencing. A working HTML5 video-component does not mean that you can do video-conferencing. It is just the component to playback the video. The tricky thing is how to access the webcam and microphone. HTML5-video is not really a streaming component. Its a progressive download. Which actually just means that you download the video and can start watching it while downloading. A Live Video cannot be "downloaded-progressive" as the whole video does never exist. You will need to code a native extension for every device to access the cam/mic and to watch the video. There are examples of native apps doing kind of conferencing. However those examples are all early beta stage or proof of concepts.
Sebastian 2012/1/27 Nick Nudell <medicn...@gmail.com>: > I understand those concerns and that my frame of reference is generally US > based. I don't think we should simply discount the iOS products as a passing > fad or as limited use devices. > > A significant number of US people are accessing the web with these devices. > Additionally, Flash (which is not Open Source) is in its last stages of life > for mobile... and Adobe has announced that developers should move to HTML5 > (http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2011/11/09/adobe-to-end-flash-support-for-mobile-phones-tablets/ ). > > Have you seen the Ericcsson webKit project? It looks like it might do much > of what OpenMeetings does and is HTML5 > (https://labs.ericsson.com/apis/web-real-time-communication/downloads) > although it is built on Ubuntu right now. > > Also there is a good discussion of HTML5 support at > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video). > > Lastly, with OM project is it possible to also release it > via http://www.adobe.com/devnet/logged_in/abansod_iphone.html? > > Cheers, > Nick > > > __ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ __ > Nick Nudell, BA, NREMT-P > medicn...@gmail.com > > > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 04:37, seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.wag...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Yes, >> >> well that is what makes OpenLaszlo or other JS frameworks such a success, >> you don't need to fight with the problems in the browser universe as the >> JS-Framework should do it for you. >> >> About streaming in HTML5 there was recently a spec published and I even >> blogged about it: >> >> http://opensourcewebconferencing.blogspot.com/2011/10/review-real-time-specification-api-of.html >> >> The reason why I don't believe there will be a suitable OpenSource video >> streaming solution in HTML5 soon is that, not even for pure video playback >> browser vendors have been able to establish an (open) standard / codec in >> that past 1-2 years. >> There has been some "enthusiasm" around Google open sourcing VP8 Codec... >> however, after some months it turns out that still 99% watching Youtube >> videos using Flash-Technology. I don't know any significant website except >> Mozilla Firefox announcement videos that use HTML5-Video. >> Things might be different on mobile devices where there is no flash at >> all. >> >> Sebastian >> >> 2012/1/27 <conrad_videokonfer...@gmx.de> >> >>> Indeed - HTML5 is something brand new. So new that only a few have it. >>> The big advantage why I prefer Open Meetings to other - installed - systems >>> is: No NAT issues, no installation hazzles. Having to install the latest >>> Chrome or Firefox is counterproductive. Flash is there (unless you're a >>> iPhone/iPad addict) >>> >>> In the long run WebRTC will be the choice - there is no doubt about it as >>> it is open and standards based and will offer features that Flash so far >>> doesn't (e.g. P2P). What I wonder is, if there is an transision technology >>> such as a Flash wrapper to bring WebRTC to older browsers. For merely >>> playing video- there is. And I remember having seen a camera/microphone >>> catcher somewhere. Anyway OpenLazlo should be convinced to play with that. >>> >>> For the time being, I have no iPhone/iPad folks around bugging me - so I >>> can live with flash. I have other issues I'd like to see resolved earlier. >>> But it looks cool >>> >>> Conrad >>> -------- Original-Nachricht -------- >>> > Datum: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 07:39:14 +0100 >>> > Von: "seba.wag...@gmail.com" <seba.wag...@gmail.com> >>> > An: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org >>> > Betreff: Re: Any HTML5 plans? >>> >>> > Hallo Nick, >>> > >>> > the client side of OpenMeetings is build with OpenLaszlo which concept >>> > it >>> > is to write the code once in a XML styled approach called .lzx and the >>> > compiler then either generates SWF or Ajax from it: >>> > http://www.openlaszlo.org/lps4.9/laszlo-explorer/index.html?lzr=dhtml >>> > >>> > But as there is no Camera/Microphone in DHTML and the specification are >>> > quite far away from any standards that are implemented accross >>> > platforms >>> > it >>> > does not make so much sense from my point of view to compile to Ajax. >>> > >>> > Sebastian >>> > >>> > 2012/1/26 Nick Nudell <medicn...@gmail.com> >>> > >>> > > Hi all, >>> > > I'm curious if there are any plans to port OM over to HTML/js rather >>> > than >>> > > Flash based? Flash might be around for a couple more years but only >>> > > for >>> > > those who have machines that support it. >>> > > >>> > > Thanks, >>> > > Nick >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Sebastian Wagner >>> > http://www.openmeetings.de >>> > http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ >>> > http://www.webbase-design.de >>> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >>> > seba.wag...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sebastian Wagner >> http://www.openmeetings.de >> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ >> http://www.webbase-design.de >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >> seba.wag...@gmail.com > > -- Sebastian Wagner http://www.openmeetings.de http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/ http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.wagner-sebastian.com seba.wag...@gmail.com
