On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 18:30:56 GMT, Martin Fox <m...@openjdk.org> wrote:

>> There is an undocumented limit on nesting calls to CFRunLoopRun (or the 
>> equivalent wrapper NSRunLoop methods). When the limit is hit the OS 
>> terminates the Java app. The situation arises when a JavaFX app creates too 
>> many nested event loops from within  Platform.runLater runnables.
>> 
>> This PR doesn't change the limit (which is 250+ nested loops) but it does 
>> throw an exception just before the limit is reached so a JavaFX developer 
>> will get a useful Java stack trace instead of an OS crash log.
>> 
>> On the Mac the nested event loop has two stages: first we ask the run loop 
>> to run, then we pull an event out and process it. A Platform.runLater 
>> runnable is executed in the first stage so if the runnable starts a new 
>> nested event loop the system will re-enter CFRunLoopRun. The same isn't true 
>> if an input event handler starts a new nested event loop; at that point 
>> we're in stage two and are past the call to CFRunLoopRun.
>
> Martin Fox has updated the pull request incrementally with one additional 
> commit since the last revision:
> 
>   Lower limit on run loop nesting

I think we will eventually settle on one of two solutions. In both cases we 
will want to document the concept of a limited nesting depth and encourage 
application developers to check `Platform.canStartNestedEventLoop` if they want 
to be sure that the platform can start one.

The two options are:

1. Make the limit platform-specific limit. The API docs will therefore not 
mention any particular limit. Each glass platform would implement 
`Application.canStartNestedEventLoop` imposing the limit for that platform. We 
_might_ consider documenting a guaranteed lower limit that is well below any 
specific platform limit (e.g., 150).
2. Make the limit platform-independent. We could, and probably should, choose 
to document this limit. We could choose to implement 
Application.canStartNestedEventLoop in shared code rather than overriding it in 
the pipeline. We would need to pick a safe "lowest common denominator" (maybe 
200).

My gut feel is that we should go with option 1 and keep this platform-specific, 
which means we would not specify the limit (other than maybe giving a guarantee 
of "at least 150"), unless there are good arguments in favor of option 2 that 
we haven't considered.

Comments?

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PR Comment: https://git.openjdk.org/jfx/pull/1741#issuecomment-2752001549

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