Continuing the discussion that was started in the CSS media queries thread:
On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 11:55 PM Kevin Rushforth <kevin.rushfo...@oracle.com> wrote: > > I'm thinking a bit bigger than just "Modena Dark". Since JFX 19, we've > > added focusVisible, platform preferences, CSS transitions, and now > > hopefully media queries. After this is done, I think we should > > leverage all of those new features, and create a bold new theme for > > JavaFX that feels at home in the year 2025. > > Depending on the scope, that's a pretty ambitious goal. :) Were you > thinking of something derived from Modena (e.g., a "Modena 2025") that > incorporates all of those things and maybe a few other tweaks? Or are > you thinking a brand new "from scratch" theme? Based on past experience > (the switch from Caspian to Modena in FX 8), the latter will require > quite a lot of work, and someone with a good artistic eye and attention > to detail to drive it. I expect it would be a fairly long process and > require a *lot* of testing. > > Anyway, that doesn't need to slow down this feature. This feature would > help with either approach. And application developers would be able to > take advantage in their own stylesheets before that. While I think that Modena is a nice-looking theme, I can't help but think that it's a nice-looking theme for the mid-2010's. It dates the JavaFX platform, and its look and feel is the first thing that people see when they interact with JavaFX (either with the framework itself, or with user-facing applications). The UI landscape has evolved quite a lot in the past decade. I think there is great value in completely modernizing the JavaFX user experience, firmly and boldly moving it forward, and making the framework attractive again for a new generation of developers. Ideally, this is more than a "Modena 2025" refresh. I completely agree that this is a big project, and it requires talented people to pull it off. However, there _are_ talented UI designers and developers in the JavaFX community. I hope this will start a discussion on how a modern JavaFX user experience can look like, and how we'd be able to achieve it.
