Thank you, Kevin. Your insightful feedback always pulls the discussion in the right direction.
The initial problem we are facing is access to Mac menu in general and additional API specifically. I can see a possibility of extending the list of APIs that app devs would want on Mac growing, so there should be a better way to add them. Using hacks like com.apple.eawt, or system properties is probably not the best solution. Ideally, there should be away that does not require creative linking of stub classes on non-Mac platforms, i.e. we should be able to use a single code base for all the platforms. ConditionalFeature might work well internally for openjfx, but I don't think it is a good solution for actually exposing the platform APIs to the user. So, in order to provide platform-specific API in such a way that still allows for a single code base for multiple platform, and one that potentially scales to tens or hundreds of API calls, I see two solutions: 1. one start starts with a single entry point, like PlatformAPI, described earlier. 2. a lookup-based approach, where the client code requests a (possibly fine-grained and narrowly defined) implementation from the system. For example: IMacMenu impl = PlatformAPI.lookup(IMacMenu.class); (where IMacMenu is an interface that, in this example, provides access to Mac menu, adding shutdown listeners, and so forth). if we are on windows, this method either returns null or throws an exception, if we are on Mac, we get a working instance (a singleton or a new instance each time, depending on the circumstances). This way we are free to extend or version the APIs without modifying the core classes. PlatformAPI.isSupported(IMacMenu.class) might provide a way to see whether the capability is present. The platform-specific interfaces like IMacMenu might in turn extend some base interface that provides introspection into common properties, such as version, description, possibly a list of other similar capabilities that the platform supports (may be a number of earlier versions?) and so forth. What do you think? -andy From: openjfx-dev <openjfx-dev-r...@openjdk.org> on behalf of Kevin Rushforth <kevin.rushfo...@oracle.com> Date: Monday, 2022/09/19 at 09:33 To: openjfx-dev@openjdk.org <openjfx-dev@openjdk.org> Subject: Re: Provide Quit handler for system menu bar I like the idea of looking at this holistically, even if we do end up adding such features one at a time. As for how to expose such an API, I don't much like the idea of exposing the underlying platform explicitly unless there is no viable alternative. A better approach is one where a feature is optional based on whether the platform you are running on supports that feature. Especially given, as you pointed out, that features that are only available in one platform today might make their way into other platforms tomorrow. As for how to let an application know whether they can use a particular API, we already have ConditionalFeature, so adding to that would be a reasonable thing to consider. -- Kevin On 9/19/2022 9:06 AM, Andy Goryachev wrote: Greetings! Thank you for proposing a solution, Florian. I wonder if we should extrapolate the problem further. Given the fact that app developers always need access to platform specific APIs, be it integration with Mac menu, perhaps we should consider a way to do so in such a way that does not require various tricks. For example, we might invent a way to query whether we are running on a certain platform and get the corresponding APIs. Let's say the class is PlatformAPI: These methods allow for querying whether the specific platform APIs are available PlatformAPI.isWindows(); PlatformAPI.isMacOS(); PlatformAPI.isLinux(); // isUnix()? isPosix() ? and these will actually return a service object that provides access to the APIs, or throws some kind of exception: IWindowsAPI PlatformAPI.getWindowsAPI(); IMacOSAPI PlatformAPI.getMacOSAPI(); the service object returned by one of these methods might provide further information about the platform version, as well as access to platform-specific APIs. Another thought is perhaps we ought to think about expanding functionality that became available on every platform in the XXI century (example: going to sleep/hibernate). Possibly external shutdown via Mac menu or a signal discussed by the OP would be considered as platform-independent. What do you think? -andy From: openjfx-dev <openjfx-dev-r...@openjdk.org><mailto:openjfx-dev-r...@openjdk.org> on behalf of Florian Kirmaier <florian.kirma...@gmail.com><mailto:florian.kirma...@gmail.com> Date: Tuesday, 2022/09/13 at 08:11 To: openjfx-...@openjdk.java.net<mailto:openjfx-...@openjdk.java.net> <openjfx-...@openjdk.java.net><mailto:openjfx-...@openjdk.java.net> Subject: Provide Quit handler for system menu bar Hi Everyone, In one project, we have to handle the quit-logic for MacOS ourselves, when the <quit app> menu entry is used. As background information - this menu entry is set in the class com.sun.glass.ui.mac.MacApplication. It's basically hard coded. Currently, in this project, the menu entry doesn't work in some cases. My Solution would be: Provide a method "Platform.setQuiteHandler(Supplier<Boolean>)" This handler is called when quit <appname> from the menu is called. If the handler returns true, all windows are closed. Otherwise, nothing happens. It would look like the following: ``` /** * Sets the handler to be called when the application is about to quit. * Currently, this can only happen on MacOS. * * This handler is called, when the user selects * the "Quit <appname>" from the application menu. * When the provided handler returns true, * the application will close all windows. * If the handler returns false, the application will not quit. * * @param The new quit handler. */ public static void setQuitHandler(Supplier x) { ... } ``` I've created a ticket for this topic. https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-8293700 I've got a working version for this change. According to Kevin Rushforth this need a prior dicussion on the mailing list. Any opinion regarding this? I could provide a pullrequest, if someone is interested. Florian Kirmaier
