Today at 5:31pm, Timothy Coalson wrote:

I would hope that attaching one new drive wouldn't make the controller
suddenly decide all other disks also had 4k sectors - he said he was
getting "larger block size" for all existing disks in the pool.

No, these are Seagate ST4000NM0023 drives, they've always really been 4K drives - but the controller used to report they were 512 byte sector drives. My problem is I don't have a spare system to move this data to (and this is the backup system, so no destroy it and recover from backups path). But, clearly, I either have to find a way to have the controller pretend these are 512 byte sector drives again, or bite that bullet and rebuild.


Perhaps it would help to get an answer from the disks about their reported
block sizes: hook one of each model in question up to a pure HBA (or, if
applicable, a native SATA port in AHCI mode) and query the physical/logical
block sizes.  This may help for doing so on solaris:

http://solaris.kuehnke.de/archives/18-Checking-physical-sector-size-of-disks-on-Solaris.html

Yes, a co-worker downloaded that blocksize program and the output shows that these drives are (now) reporting they are 4k physical blocks:

root@bujbod1:~/blocksize# ./blocksize /dev/rdsk/c5t0d0
dkmp.dki_capacity = 7812499456
dkmp.dki_lbsize   = 512
dkmp_ext.dki_capacity = 7812499456
dkmp_ext.dki_lbsize   = 512
dkmp_ext.dki_pbsize   = 4096

root@bujbod1:~/blocksize# ./blocksize /dev/rdsk/c5t1d0
dkmp.dki_capacity = 7812499456
dkmp.dki_lbsize   = 512
dkmp_ext.dki_capacity = 7812499456
dkmp_ext.dki_lbsize   = 512
dkmp_ext.dki_pbsize   = 4096



If it turns out that they had 4k physical blocks all along, it may help
performance to rebuild the pool.  I'm unsure whether you can use sd.conf to
make a 4k disk pretend to be a 512 disk (I have only used it to do the
opposite), but if rebuilding the pool isn't an option, or you just want to
get it back to full redundancy before trying additional things, that might
be something to try.

I tried repeatedly to change the blocksize via sd.conf to pretend they are 512 byte sector disks this afternoon and I have not succeeded yet. What I have right now is:

sd-config-list =
 "IBM     ServeRAID M5120 ", "physical-block-size:512";

Either I'm doing it wrong or that parameter is not allowed to be less than the reported physical block size.

Thanks,
  Frank


Tim



On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Reginald Beardsley <pulask...@yahoo.com>wrote:

It's probably the new drive, NOT the controller.  I ran into this when I
RMAed a 3 TB HGST drive. The replacement had 4k sectors instead of the 512
byte sectors of the failed drive.  HGST was unable to supply a 512 sector
disk.

Unfortunately, as far as I know you'll have to rebuild the entire pool.
 I'd suggest buying new 4k sector disks for the new pool and keeping the
old ones as spares for pools built with 512 sector disks.

You may need to add entries in sd.conf to notify the driver that the
drives are 4k.  That seems to depend upon what the drives report to the
driver.  Plan on this being tedious and time consuming.  You might get
lucky, but it's best to be prepared.  I suggest being especially vigilant
about backups until you've got it resolved.  Make sure you don't overwrite
good ones with bad ones.

I *think* I wrote up everything I learned on the page Klimov created, but
don't hesitate to ask if you have questions.  If you have to do the sd.conf
bit make sure you read George Wilson's page linked from Klimov's page.

Good luck,
Reg

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On Tue, 11/19/13, Francis Swasey <frank.swa...@uvm.edu> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] spool replace says the disk has a
different sector alignment
 To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" <
openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org>
 Date: Tuesday, November 19, 2013, 1:46 PM


 On Nov 19, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Francis Swasey <frank.swa...@uvm.edu>
 wrote:

> On Nov 19, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Stefan Müller-Wilken
 <stefan.mueller-wil...@acando.de>
 wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> have you looked at
http://wiki.illumos.org/display/illumos/ZFS+and+Advanced+Format+disks
 ? Or quoting
http://thr3ads.net/zfs-discuss/2012/09/2101915-cannot-replace-X-with-Y-devices-have-different-sector-alignment
 as  another source, you could also try fdisk to compare
 your two devices:
>
> Yes, I have looked at the first one.  and the
 fdisk -G shows me:
>
> root@bujbod1:~/blocksize# fdisk -G /dev/rdsk/c5t0d0
> * Physical geometry for device /dev/rdsk/c5t0d0
> * PCYL     NCYL
    ACYL     BCYL
    NHEAD NSECT SECSIZ
>  60788    60788    0
       0
 255   504   512
> root@bujbod1:~/blocksize# fdisk -G /dev/rdsk/c5t1d0
> * Physical geometry for device /dev/rdsk/c5t1d0
> * PCYL     NCYL
    ACYL     BCYL
    NHEAD NSECT SECSIZ
>  60788    60788    0
       0
 255   504   512
>
> And it is the c5t0d0 that it can't replace.
>
> What I have discovered since my first email is I have
 all these messages in /var/adm/messages for all the disks in
 this zpool:
>
> Nov 19 14:24:33 bujbod1 zfs: [ID 447730 kern.warning]
 WARNING: Disk, '/dev/dsk/c5t10d0s0', has a block alignment
 that is larger than the pool's alignment
>
> I'm guessing that the firmware upgrade I applied to
 this system a month ago changed something critical to ZFS on
 the IBM M5120 (rebranded LSI) raid controller.


 Reading further into
http://blog.delphix.com/gwilson/2012/11/15/4k-sectors-and-zfs/,
 I get to the zdb command...

 root@bujbod1:~# zdb -l /dev/dsk/c5t0d0s0 | grep ashift
         ashift: 12
         ashift: 12
         ashift: 12
         ashift: 12
 root@bujbod1:~# zdb -l /dev/dsk/c5t1d0s0 | grep ashift
         ashift: 9
         ashift: 9
         ashift: 9
         ashift: 9

 And here is the issue... Whatever got changed in the M5120's
 firmware now makes zfs want to use ashift=12 instead of
 ashift=9 (which it did when the pool was created).

 Suggestions for how I get myself out of this mess?

 Thanks,
   Frank
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