Neat.  

That is something I had never even thought of!

I guess I'm going to have to get up to speed on the different internet access 
speeds.  I remember when T1 lines were so blazingly fast that you could never 
even have imagined ever using one to its capacity.

Thank you very much.  I greatly appreciate it.  



On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Grant Albitz wrote:

> Understand you are going to be restricted by your internet bandwidth in this 
> instance. a T1 line is 1.54 Mbps. Dsl is generally not much higher, lets say 
> 7Mbps for the sake of argument.
> 
> Your internal network is either 100Mbps or 1Gbps (1000). You used the pipe 
> analogy. Your pipe out of the building is so much smaller then the pipes in 
> the building that optimizing anything inside for network traffic is 
> irrelevant. 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: dormitionsk...@hotmail.com [dormitionsk...@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 3:40 PM
> To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
> Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Quick zone-networking question.
> 
> I wasn't going to bother with a switch because we're only going to have this 
> one server and one other workstation connected with wired networking in this 
> remote location.  This is going in a guest house, to serve our various 
> websites, and some other applications we'd like to make available for our own 
> use when we're out on the road.  Any other computers guests might bring there 
> would connect wirelessly.
> 
> Oh, and we make a lot of videos.  We may start hosting those on this server 
> at some point, too.
> 
> I was thinking more in terms of what would be the best way to get the 
> internet traffic in and out of this server -- no other internal 
> organizational network involved -- whether using two nics would be better 
> than just one.
> 
> I was thinking we'd buy a block of five static IP addresses from the phone 
> company.  One would go to the router.  One or two to the server.  The rest 
> would be unused, for possible future needs.
> 
> We'd use ipfilter for port forwarding the various services to the correct 
> zones.
> 
> I was thinking in real simple terms here, because I'm not much of a 
> networker:  put some zones on one nic, and some on the other.
> 
> I guess what I'm concerned with is that I don't want to run into a bottleneck 
> between the server and the router.  I can't do much between the rest of it - 
> between the router and modem and the internet.
> 
> The router we're planning to use does not support IEEE 802.3ad link 
> aggregation.  I suppose that if we needed to get a different router, we 
> could.  And I think link aggregation might be within my abilities.  IPMP 
> looks a bit more challenging.
> 
> So, is trying to avoid a bottleneck between the server and the router what 
> you would consider internal or external?
> 
> I'd just like to make sure that when I set this up, I do it in a way that if 
> things get way busier than they are now, that the network and server can 
> handle it -- especially if we start hosting the videos.
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 13, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Grant Albitz wrote:
> 
>> First ask yourself are you trying to increase bandwidth internally or 
>> externally. Your single 100/1000 Mbps ethernet line is not going to be a 
>> bottleneck for a 1.5Mbps t1 or any DSL line so if the answer is external 
>> than there is no point in doing anything.
>> 
>> If you are  worried about internal traffic then you could possibly give 
>> yourself more bandwidth by segmenting the traffic. Just keep in mind that 
>> having 2 lines doesn't mean you are getting twice the bandwidth, but you 
>> could have some services bound to the one link/ip and some to the others.
>> 
>> 
>> Your simple diagram doesn't depict a switch, if you were utilizing some form 
>> of lacp or etherchannel with a switch you could take 2 lines and bond them, 
>> but even then there are algorithms involved for how the traffic is load 
>> balanced and most of these result in a single host using only one path. If 
>> you were serving hundreds of workstations or your load actually does 
>> saturate a 1Gbps line then there is some benefit to teaming the adapters. 
>> Again that is purely for internal traffic only and you need capable hardware.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> From: dormitionsk...@hotmail.com [dormitionsk...@hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:26 PM
>> To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
>> Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Quick zone-networking question.
>> 
>> Hi, all.
>> 
>> This is probably a stupid question, but suppose we have a modem for a DSL or 
>> T1 line, and attached to it is a router, and attached to it is a server with 
>> two network cards.  And suppose I was to connect both network cards to the 
>> router.  So we have something like this:
>> 
>>             Modem
>>                  |
>>             Router
>>                |   |
>>             Server
>> 
>> I was thinking to have our apache web server, email, and whatever other 
>> zones on one network card, and perhaps put our tomcat zone on the other, in 
>> my mind, to balance the load.  I was thinking since the web apps that we'll 
>> run on tomcat will be using ajax, it might like more bandwidth.
>> 
>> I've always thought of networking like pipes of water -- except it's data.  
>> I don't know how valid that is.  But when I look at this, it seems like I 
>> have two pipes going into the router, and if that pipe going from the router 
>> to the modem is the same size, I wouldn't really get any benefit from doing 
>> this.
>> 
>> Am I right?  Should I not bother using both network cards like this?
>> 
>> I'm at the point where I'm done "playing" (i.e. testing), and am putting all 
>> this stuff together now.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
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