On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Ken Gunderson <kgund...@teamcool.net> wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 21:13 +0530, Sriram Narayanan wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Ken Gunderson <kgund...@teamcool.net> wrote: >> > On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 19:24 +0530, Sriram Narayanan wrote: >> >> Hi everyone: >> >> >> >> I've been using openindiana as my primary desktop environment while I >> >> work on Belenix related development (illumos kernel, rpm, etc). >> >> >> >> I've not felt a single slow down ever in my use of OI. I've used both >> >> build 147 as well as 148. IPS sucks for me given the low bandwidth and >> >> the calculations it does each time. But Gnome itself it fine. >> >> >> >> However, I've seen these recent threads (one on branding, and one test >> >> drive) where Gnome was mentioned as being slow. >> >> >> >> Has anyone else also experienced this ? Are there any known reasons ? >> > >> > Pretty much everything seems to run slower on "Slowaris" on the desktop >> > front. If in doubt, buy another hd, same as you're using now, and make >> > a native install Linux poison of choice, e.g. Fedora 15, Debian-6, etc. >> > (i.e. not virtualized) and the difference is quite noticeable. >> > >> >> "Slowlaris" was a term used only for the TCP/IP stack of Solaris 9. >> The entire TCP/IP stack was changed with the FireEngine project which >> improved things a lot. Crossbow built on top of that and brought about >> even further improvements. >> >> Solaris 10 and above are not "slow". >> >> > Solaris derivatives like OI have their attractions. But speed isn't one >> > of them. At least this is my experience, since you asked. Let the flame >> > fest begin... >> > >> >> I have asked if others have seen a slow Gnome desktop with OI, and if >> they know the reasons for this. >> >> Ken, I use a 4500 rpm disk for belenix and illumos builds, and >> everything works just fine for me. This has been the case since 2006. >> >> I run a very large setup at work, and I'm soon going to move over all >> our source code systems (git, hg, svn) onto openindiana. >> >> Here are some numbers that I consistently get every month (I check >> every month) for a specific disk intensive activity: >> 5400 rpm disk - Windows XP - 38 minutes >> 5400 rpm disk - Windows Server 2008 - 23 minutes >> 5400 rpm disk - Windows 7 - 17 minutes >> 5400 rpm disk - FC13 - 12 minutes >> 7200 rpm disk - Windows 7 - 17 minutes >> 7200 rpm disk - OSX - 8 minutes >> 4500 rpm disk - openindiana/illumos/build_111a - 4.5 minutes >> >> Here's another set of numbers: >> P4 2.2 Ghz with 2.72 TB RAIDZ and 8 GB RAM running Solaris 10 update 8 >> used for serving iSCSI content off ZFS filesystems -> I have a >> specific requirement where I've snapshotted a 600 GB ZFS filesystem >> containing 9 VMs, and have then cloned this 20 times. This is for a >> test setup. After the cloning and regular use, I see that an overall >> diskspace of 800 GB has been used. >> >> I get no noticable performance difference at all. And this is with a >> single Ethernet card. >> >> These are my numbers. >> >> Given the above, and my own work with Belenix, as well as zero Gnome >> issues with OI, I've asked if anyone knows more. >> >> This was not asked to incite a flamefest, and I request that we don't >> walk that path. > > Hence my hesitancy to even reply in the first place. Since you mentioned > Gnome specifically, my comments were directed specifically to > desktop/workstation usage. Perhaps such is not the case with disk I/O > or tcp/ip throughput. But again, such was also not the topic of your > query. > > So back to your specific questions: "Has anyone else also experienced > this ? Are there any known reasons ?" > > In _my_ experience Gnome is significantly slower on s10, OS, and OI. I > have not investigated as to why this might be, as it pretty much always > has been my experience, so I've just accepted it as one of the "costs" > one pays to get the "benefits" of features such as zfs, crossbow, zones, > etc. If this is not your experience, then that's fine with me. I have > better things to do than argue the matter. >
Replying to you privately... > > -- > Regards-- Ken Gunderson > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > -- Belenix: www.belenix.org _______________________________________________ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
