No! (the vote has begun :)
I feel that Live CD is still a server OS.
I suggest names like
- Gnome distribution; (Actually "Live CD" is even better name - it
gives an idea that you can boot from CD not touching your HDD content);
- Command line distribution.
Dmitry.
On 17.01.2011 16:16, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote:
Thank you very much for such a detailed response, actually yes,
Openindiana-desktop, is more clear than the LiveCD, it makes sense.
I will read the links you sent.
Thanks again for all your work.
BR
Gab
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Alasdair Lumsden<alasdai...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Gabriel,
On 01/17/11 10:07 AM, Gabriel de la Cruz wrote:
Thanks!
A place to start is a place to start, and an stable server release is
the most urgent one among all the other options.
Great - thanks for the feedback!
Some people is talking about the server-desktop question, I
particularly liked the old Solaris software groups concept (reduced
network, core, end user, entire)... woulnt it be posible to have a non
stable distro featuring the full range of up to date software, and a
stable conservative one (behind in innovation but ahead in stability)
allowing to either just keep the fully suported core of software or to
add as well a less supported desktop enviroment?. Wouldnt this be
almost same effort, example:
Well, the thing is, this is already the case. All people have to do is use
the Text Installer ISO (Or the Automated Installer ISO) - this installs a
much smaller subset of software which doesn't include the full Gnome desktop
software. Effectively the text installer ISO is the "server release" and the
Live CD ISO is the "desktop release". Perhaps we need to name them such to
avoid the confusion, as it seems a lot of people on-list are confused about
this.
Unfortunately the Text Installer still installs quite a "fat" install, due
to some packaging that needs improvement. Alan Coopersmith pointed us at
some bugs on bugs.opensolaris.org related to this which was pretty helpful:
http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=7010355
- splitting tk bindings out of the core python package
http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=7010324
- splitting X apps out of the core groff package
http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6574610
- splitting glib out of the gnome-base-libs package
The only differences between a server install and a desktop install are the
packages installed, and they're already split up into fairly reasonable
incorporations. I think the situation with OpenSolaris only having a
graphical LiveCD for so long has led people to think that OpenSolaris and
thus OpenIndiana is mainly a desktop OS.
So I am starting to think that we should rename the Live CD to
OpenIndiana-Desktop and the Text Installer to OpenIndiana-Server.
Ideally the graphical installer, Caiman, would let you choose which package
incorporations to install. But unfortunately I think it does a "dumb"
install from a cpio archive.
Perhaps refactoring of Caiman is needed, where the Live CD ships with a pkg
repo, starts a pkg server, and does an install from that. Not sure how
feasible this would be. Given how complete pkg is, probably not all that
hard.
Cheers,
Alasdair
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