On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Michael Halstead <mich...@yoctoproject.org>wrote:
> On 11/30/2012 12:17 PM, Raymond Danks wrote: > > On 11/30/2012 11:03 AM, Michael Halstead wrote: > > On 11/30/2012 09:26 AM, Bruce Ashfield wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Saul Wold <s...@linux.intel.com> wrote: > >> On 11/30/2012 03:29 AM, David Nyström wrote: >> >>> On 11/29/2012 02:54 PM, Richard Purdie wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 2012-11-29 at 06:44 -0700, Raymond Danks wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for looping me in here David. The initial goal for the meta-xen >>>>> layer was in fact to encompass Xen Cloud Platform. As such, the intent >>>>> was to contain both hypervisor and user-space applications. Indeed, >>>>> the >>>>> xen distribution itself includes xm/libxl; hypervisor abstraction would >>>>> be somewhat tedious in my opinion. >>>>> >>>>> The layer just received commits for expanding the libvirt build to >>>>> support qemu. The commonalities and shared packaged between xen, qemu, >>>>> and kvm implementations are such that I would also agree that meta-xen >>>>> should be expanded/renamed to encompass all virtualization types; I >>>>> also >>>>> support the move to meta-virtualization. >>>>> >>>>> >>> meta-virtualization sounds good, let co-op on this so we don't duplicate >>> work. >>> >>> If everyone is OK with this, I will have Michael Halstead create a >> repo, please send him your keys so that you will have write access to it. >> > > This works for me. If Michael already has our keys, do we need to resend > or can > a local copy happen ? > > I already have keys for, > > David Nystrom df:2d:b1:59:f3:d7:73:fc:59:36:7b:cf:85:28:a7:50 > Bruce Ashfield 4f:93:90:b2:c7:a1:45:21:f2:47:31:6f:60:f9:60:02 > > Either of you can currently add > g...@git.yoctoproject.org:meta-virtualization as a git remote and start > the repository. Once we have initial code and the maintainers and patch > submission guidelines in the readme I can publicly list the new repository. > > I require an ssh public key for Raymond Danks. > > Thanks Michael. I got your response and was able to push meta-xen to the > newly created repository on meta-virtualization. I added one commit to > tweak the README and conf/layer.conf for the new name. > > > > We also need a short description for the listing on git.yoctoproject.org. > I could be something similar to, but better than, "Layer enabling > virtualization support. " > > How about "Layer enabling hypervisor, virtualization tool stack, and cloud > support." > > Sounds good to me. Thank you. > > Also - I referenced the mail alias meta-virtualization at yoctoproject in > the README. When you publish this, can we use something like that as well? > > I can add a private list for meta-virtualizat...@yoctoproject.org. Who > shall I add to membership? > > At the risk of stating the obvious, I like the idea of a separate list, and would like to be added. But then again, i can always add myself later as well (assuming the same interface as the rest of the lists). Cheers, Bruce > > > -- > Michael Halstead > Yocto Project / Sys Admin > > > > Thanks again, > Ray > > > -- > Michael Halstead > Yocto Project / Sys Admin > > > > Cheers, > > Bruce > > >> >> Sau! >> >> >> As far as a meta-cloud layer is concerned, I'm not sure I am >>>>> knowledgeable enough in this area to weigh in. I'm currently >>>>> researching a filesystem implementation for OpenStack and have stumbled >>>>> across Ceph/RBD and Gluster modules that look promising. On top of >>>>> this, >>>>> XCP is documented to include support for VastSky and can be integrated >>>>> with DRBD. And, the storage and hypervisor are only two pieces of the >>>>> puzzle for a cloud implementation! >>>>> >>>>> >>> Cool ! >>> I know, the meta-"cloud" name is quite/too ambitious, it was not meant >>> to be a one week effort. But why aim low :). >>> >>> I think I would encourage you to also include OpenStack in a >>>>> meta-virtualization layer until it has matured to the point where >>>>> abstraction is more warranted. >>>>> >>>> >>> Agree. >>> >>> Since you've already created a presence >>>>> at github, would it be possible to rename your layer to >>>>> meta-virtualization and absorb the entire meta-xen layer? I can push >>>>> any changes for Xen/XCP here, it sounds like it is a central place for >>>>> libvirt and could also contain Bruce's kernel modifications. >>>>> >>>>> Alternatively, I can create a meta-virtualization project. In any >>>>> case, >>>>> those on the To and CC list should receive access to this layer as a >>>>> starting point. >>>>> >>>>> Just my two cents. :) >>>>> >>>> >>>> I'd like to offer to host this combined layer (whatever we decide to >>>> call it) on git.yoctoproject.org if that would help people and people >>>> are interested. My only concern is in the area of maintainership, we >>>> need to clearly define who maintains what and what the patch submission >>>> process is in the README. >>>> >>>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Sounds good to centralize everything, since Raymond is the majority code >>> contributor, perhaps he, if willing, can maintain the >>> meta-virtualization layer. >>> If you want a co/sub-maintainer I'll be happy to help out. >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Openembedded-core mailing list >>>> Openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org >>>> http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-core >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Openembedded-core mailing list >>> Openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org >>> http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-core >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Openembedded-core mailing list >> Openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org >> http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-core >> > > > > -- > "Thou shalt not follow the NULL pointer, for chaos and madness await thee > at its end" > > > > > > -- "Thou shalt not follow the NULL pointer, for chaos and madness await thee at its end"
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