Hi all, We've been talking about this on-and-off at Wind River for a while now, but it now seems like a reasonable time to bring a proposal to the OE community at large. We're thinking about creating a new layer to house recipes, etc. for networking packages. I'll try to address what seem to be the most immediate questions (certainly the ones we've been thinking most about any time I've discussed this with anyone):
Who would use this? The intent is that this would be a layer generally useful directly on top of the Yocto Project / OE-core, but it would also draw from and compliment meta-oe. Right now I'm imagining two main groups interested in this layer. - Anyone building a small networking device (eg. a home router / bridge / switch). - Anyone wanting to add network services to their device (eg. anything that might benefit from a small ftp/tftp server) What will it include? The focus should be on networking protocols, daemons, servers and utilities. The plan is for a staged approach. Initially we're going to bring forward a number of recipes from OE Classic that aren't currently in OE-core or the meta-oe layer. The short list right now is: - aoetools - openldap - quagga - radvd - tftp-hpa - traceroute - tunctl - vblade - vlan - xl2tpd The next two stages would run concurrently, with Wind River contributing a number of recipes we intend to support for the long-term. That list is still being firmed up but will include: - freeradius - netcat - racoon2 - rdist There's about another six or seven packages on the short list right now, generally in the same vein. The other stage is migrating packages that seem like obvious fits into this layer from meta-oe. The current list under consideration would be: - atftp - bridge-utils - dnsmasq - dnsmasq-dbus - inetutils - ipsec-tools - iw - libnet - libnfnetlink - net-snmp - ntp - ntp-ssl - openvpn - ptpd - rp-pppoe - samba - strongswan - talloc - tcpdump - vsftpd That's a lot of stuff, are you going to organize it somehow? The plan is that we will have subdirectories for logical groups of recipes in much the same way meta-oe is organized today. Groupings I would propose right now would be: - recipes-daemons - containing stuff like atftp, dnsmasq, racoon2, radvd, etc. - recipes-protocols - containing stuff like quagga, openldap, xl2tpd, maybe iscsi if it appears, etc. - recipes-support - containing the rest, aoetools, bridge-utils, traceroute, etc. This is definitely the least-clear part of our plan so far and would need the most feedback and fine-tuning, I expect. Why move anything from meta-oe? "Networking" covers such a broad area and touches so much that it really seems like 'meta-networking' should be a home for all of the embedded networking bits. Leaving some parts in meta-oe and having the rest in meta-networking would ultimately seem a bit arbitrary. Who is 'we'? Wind River is volunteering to maintain the layer and any recipes we contribute at the outset. For recipes imported from OE Classic it'd be great if the maintainers there continued ownership, but if that's not possible, WR will also sign up for general maintenance. For recipes imported from meta-oe we would hope that the current maintainers would continue support in meta-networking once it's created. WR definitely won't be able to do this alone so we're hoping for help from everyone here. When are you doing this? I've been working on a prototype on and off for the last little bit but considering the scope and potential impact, it seemed best to open up the discussion here first and if it seemed like a generally desirable thing, we'd get some version of this up and available within a few days of consensus. So what does everyone think? Awesome idea? Terrible idea? (Hopefully) something in between? All feedback is welcome. -- Joe MacDonald, Sr. Member of Technical Staff, Linux Products Group, Wind River direct 613.270.5750 mobile 613.291.7421 fax 613.592.2283 _______________________________________________ Openembedded-core mailing list Openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-core