On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 08:50 +0200, Koen Kooi wrote: > Op 4 mei 2012, om 08:32 heeft Martin Jansa het volgende geschreven: > > > On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 08:13:06AM +0200, Koen Kooi wrote: > >> > >> Op 3 mei 2012, om 13:51 heeft Richard Purdie het volgende geschreven: > >> > >>> On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 13:39 +0200, Koen Kooi wrote: > >>>> Op 3 mei 2012, om 13:24 heeft Richard Purdie het volgende geschreven: > >>>>> The whole point with the qemu emulated machines is that you build them > >>>>> and they work for new users easily and efficiently. I don't think > >>>>> calling bitbake to build them and force the user into another wait is a > >>>>> good usability model to be promoting. > >>>> > >>>> OE-core should set the right example and teaching people that a global > >>>> IMAGE_DEPENDS is OK is not the right example. Especially when it > >>>> actually causes breakage, see below. > >>>> If people insist that IMAGE_DEPENDS is the one and only way to provide > >>>> the runqemu experience then at least put a big comment in the file > >>>> saying why it's done and why people shouldn't be copy/pasting it into > >>>> their layers. > >>>> And an indiciation where the line is drawn would be nice as well, I > >>>> can imagine that someone wants to add amazon EC2 support to runqemu > >>>> and sends a patch to add the EC2 tools to IMAGE_DEPENDS. > >>> > >>> I'm happy to see a comment. The line is quite clear, the documentation > >>> associated with the qemu images, the quick start guide and other manuals > >>> assume we build qemu-native and friends and for usability this is a > >>> clear win. The manuals do not document EC2 and it is not something we > >>> expect a new user to need to do easily. Running an extra "bitbake xxx" > >>> or including an extra configuration file would be perfectly reasonable > >>> for those usage scenarios. > >>> > >>>>> I'm also slightly bemused that in previous discussions you've implied > >>>>> build time is less relevant then functionality yet here you're taking > >>>>> the opposite stance :). > >>>> > >>>> I get build *failures* for the qemu machines because I don't have mesa > >>>> and sdl installed on the autobuilder. But you are right, I do think > >>>> build time is less relevant than functionality. > >>> > >>> We should also consider setting up PACKAGECONFIG options in the qemu > >>> recipe for these things so you can specify to build qemu-native without > >>> sdl/gl easily. I appreciate that is going to be pretty nasty > >>> implementation wise but I think it would help and in fact if someone > >>> files the bug I'll mark it as a P1 for 1.3 since that does help > >>> usability a lot. > >> > >> #2402 and it's already going the WONTFIX way > > > > #2407 ? > > -ENOCOFFEE, sorry
I was wondering what remake had to do with this :). I've replied to the bug, I don't think WONTFIX is appropriate in this case. Cheers, Richard _______________________________________________ Openembedded-core mailing list Openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-core
