Hello,

On 09.03.20 01:23, Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Sun, Mar 08, 2020 at 11:08:08PM +0100, Alexander Kanavin wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2020 at 22:46, Adrian Bunk <b...@stusta.de> wrote:

It is on YP to make it clear to users whether or not Yocto comes with
the same set of security guarantees as distributions like Ubuntu or
Debian.
If it is the duty of every user of Yocto to track and fix CVEs,
then this has to be stated clearly instead of implying the opposite.
This gives users the opportunity to mitigate, instead of unknowingly
shipping insecure products.

Do you have any actual evidence for actual users shipping insecure products
because they mistakenly believe Yocto takes care of security for them?
Nothing to discuss in public.

This
has been the situation from the start of the project, certainly this was
the case 5 years ago when I joined it, and the only person ever to make an
issue out of it is you. Everyone else seems to understand the deal they're
getting by using Yocto without a commercial support contract.
...
You are saying that 'track and fix CVEs' is on users.
Let's check what YP is telling users.

Click on the "Is Yocto Project for you?" link on the YP frontpage:

https://www.yoctoproject.org/is-yocto-project-for-you/
13. Yocto Project follows a strict release schedule incorporating
security patches in all supported releases. This predictability is
crucial for projects that are based on Yocto Project and allows the
development teams to plan their activities. Developers can choose which
Yocto Project branch on which to base their activities as a function of
their needs. The development branch will ensure access to the latest
features while the stable branches will reduce the pace of changes. CVEs
(common vulnerabilities and exposures) issues are supported for the
latest 2 releases.


Adrian is making a point here, The Yocto Project by claiming that it supports security patches for Stable releases is misleading the Users!

I work with different customers and some of them think that by using and pulling the latest releases they will get the CVEs automatically fixed!

YP should state that CLEARLY! Of course it will impact the choice of going with Yocto or Not ( probably NOT in this case).



Alex
cu
Adrian

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