On Apr 7, 2011, at 9:53 AM, "Colin Walters" <walt...@verbum.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Hatle, Mark <mark.ha...@windriver.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I think definition may be an issue here.  When I speak of multilibs I am 
>> talking primarily about multiliple non-conflicting, ABI incompatible 
>> libraries being installed at the same time.  This is the ELF 32 and ELF 64 
>> case where the items can't be linked together, but can be installed and jrun 
>> on the same machine.
> 
> Right, that's "multilib".
> 
>> The alternative is the case on ARM where we have one single ABI but multiple 
>> ways to implement the code.. Thumb, neon, vfp, etc being options.  We want 
>> to do this as well, but while related, I see it as a diffent use case.
> 
> Isn't this already covered by glibc's support for
> /lib/$processor_feature?  On my Fedora 14 x86_64 system I have
> /lib/i686/nosegneg for example, and a simple "strace true" shows us
> trying to find a variant of libc that is built for TLS (and not
> finding it):
> 

The needs for the arm case include both executables and libraries.  The 
processor feature can be used, but that only covers the libraries themselves.  
We want a mechanism to say that the whole system is built thumb2, except for a 
particular compilation modules, library and/or application.  (generally is done 
on a full recipe basis, and not on a single compilation module..)

The other issue on ARM embedded systems is that the processor feature approach 
typically makes the system larger, by providing both the lesser optimized and 
more completely optimized libraries....  I've had resistence to this approach 
from customer over that reason.  (mind you I'm in favor of making that easier 
to use in OE as well.)

> $ strace true
> execve("/bin/true", ["true"], [/* 54 vars */]) = 0
> brk(0)                                  = 0xe59000
> mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1,
> 0) = 0x7f54472b0000
> access("/etc/ld.so.preload", R_OK)      = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
> directory)
> open("/src/build/jhbuild/lib64/tls/x86_64/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1
> ENOENT (No such file or directory)

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