I am trying to use openbabel (version 2.4.1) to calculate approximate 
charges using qtpie and qeq, and the results that I obtain appear 
completely unreasonable. For example, using the following .xyz file for 
water (O-H = 0.947 A, HOH = 105.5):

water.xyz
----------
3
water
O      0.0000    0.0000    0.0000
H      0.7538    0.5732    0.0000
H     -0.7538    0.5732    0.0000
----------

I obtain a qtpie charge of -1.5083 and a qeq charge of +1.8296 on the 
oxygen atom. Other charge models give values much more in line with 
expectations (eem(qO) = -0.6501, gasteiger(qO) = -0.4105, and mmff94(qO) 
= -0.8600).

The following command was used to determine charges:
      obabel water.xyz -omol2 --partialcharge qtpie

Thinking that this might simply due to the fact that the water molecule 
is not modeled well by these approximate methods, I looked at phenol 
(this was molecule was included in the original qtpie paper (Chen, 
Martinez, J. Chem. Phys. Lett., 2007, 315)). Again, unreasonable charges 
were obtained the qeq and qtpie charges were obtained. For example, 
using qtpie the calculated charge on the O was -1.4532 and the charge on 
the aromatic carbon bound to the OH group was +2.0941.

I obtained the same results using the precompiled version 2.3.2 of 
openbabel included with Linux Mint on a different computer. I did note 
that the source code for the qtpie routine indicates that some changes 
were made from the published procedure, so the values obtaine would not 
be identical. However, this note also indicated that very similar values 
should be obtained.

Am I the only person having this problem, or is there a error in the 
implementation of the qeq and qtpie charge models?

Thank you.
Clarke

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