Hi,

I suppose you are talking about protonated Histidine, since that’s what is in 
the picture as far as I can tell. However, your coordinates are at most a 
fragment of HIP. My 3D vision isn’t good enough to see structure from 
coordinates, and I don’t know all of OpenBabel’s formats well enough to tell 
which one you have. So, I therefor can’t really tell what your coordinates are 
showing and hence I cannot say if the SMILE is a good representation or not. 
But I can say that it is a difficult problem to assign proper bondorders to 
molecules when only coordinates are given, especially with missing charges and 
even more so if we are talking about fragments. Further, I don’t really 
understand the part where you state that the coordinates back-converted are 
different. Since SMILES don’t carry any information about coordinates, it will 
obviously be lost in the conversion.

If you provide your input file and the commands you use for the conversion, I 
could try to look at it again.

Kind regards,
Fredrik

14 maj 2014 kl. 20:00 skrev Jiaguo <comingn...@hotmail.com>:

> <http://forums.openbabel.org/file/n4657433/GV_hip.png> 
> 
> The SMILES given by Open Babel for the Hip (protonated Histine), coordinates
> shown below, is "CCC1=CNCN1". 
> 
>> From the coordinates, it should be easily seen that Hip (protonated Histine)
> is +1 charge. However, from the SMILES, this information (and the
> coordination pattern) is lost. In fact, the coordinates back-converted from
> SMILES is quite different.
> 
> I would think this is wrong, but I wonder whether this is be design ?
> 
> 16
> Hip (protonated Histine)
> C                 -5.83770117   -1.72505544    0.00000000
> H                 -6.46253417   -1.64825244   -0.88982300
> C                 -6.72432417   -1.57893344    1.23214100
> H                 -7.46855917   -2.37525544    1.24137300
> H                 -6.11155117   -1.64458144    2.13119600
> C                 -7.48375317   -0.27683644    1.32108500
> N                 -8.33394317    0.00896456    2.38296700
> C                 -7.52063117    0.80076756    0.49245500
> H                 -8.52477017   -0.59484244    3.16979800
> C                 -8.84813417    1.20805556    2.18249600
> N                 -8.37444817    1.69329156    1.06166200
> H                 -7.03093917    1.04067456   -0.45133900
> H                 -9.54804417    1.62859556    2.90455700
> H                 -8.60883517    2.59721956    0.67685400
> H                 -5.14137252   -0.91263534    0.00000000
> H                 -5.33042678   -2.66716620    0.00000000
> 
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