https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=181290
--- Comment #39 from Albert Astals Cid <tsdgeos terra es> 2010-02-22 19:46:28 --- > So, Albert, are you saying that KDE developers just don't care about the > opinion of their users? No, I don't know what other KDE developers think, but i do care about the opinion of users > The users should not be entitled to their own opinion > on KDE because they don't give money or coding time? No, everyone is entitled to have an opinion > What is the goal of bug reports? Reporting non known bugs or giving extra information on existing ones > Is this a private club for KDE developers and financial supporters? No > You know, it is weird, i have always thought that contributing with a bug > report is a CONTRIBUTE to the project exactly as it could be with money or > coding time because they say not only what is wrong, but also what the users > think is IMPORTANT. This is comment #36 of a lot of printing related bugs, you are not CONTRIBUTING anything by adding yet another "you suck because printing is not fixed" comment. On the other hand we appreciate a lot the contribution of unknown bugs or addition of extra information to existing ones. > But of course this supposes that on the other side there is > someone that reads them and tries to learn something from them, > if nothing else at least what is valuable to their users and what is not, > instead than telling to their users that with their comments they add > "exactly zero value to the issue". Should i lie? Those comment added exactly zero value to the issue, in fact they possibily added negative value > Not only this, but here we have users that are using their time to read > this bug report and comment. > Is their time less valuable than developer's time? I don't care how others spend their time > Should they pay someone to have the privilege to tell you what's important? If you want a privilege, yes you have to pay or reward me in some other way. > You say "we all know printing is broken". Really? With "we" meaning the Okular developers, at which this bug is addressed, yes, really. > But maybe what you miss to know is that printing is IMPORTANT to a desktop > user. No, i do not miss that. > And this is what these comments try to point out. No, a comment saying "printing is still not fixed, you suck" does not try to point that out, it's a personal attack against the developers, and with a very weird rationale, some people think personal attacks is going to give them a positive answer from a developer > After years from the initial release of KDE4 _still_ > printing is not working as it should and it did (in KDE3). Again, we know > Is it such a shame if some users try to underline this important aspect > trying to get the attention of who CAN and KNOWS how to fix this problem? We know it's important. > What is the point of wasting coding time adding useless graphical effects > when an important subsystem of KDE still is missing to work properly > (when it used to work in KDE3)? This is mostly a volunteer run project, people waste their time in what they like. There are some ways to change what a developer wants to code, one of them is money, there are others, but they not involve the words "suck", "waste", etc. > Maybe coding special effects is more fun than getting a printer to work > out of the box? For some developers, for sure. > Do you think KDE users need more special effects or print > without having to turn the world upside-down? What i think it's non interesting here since in your words "i'm not wasting my time in coding graphical effects" > Do you see the point of these comments now? No > Do you see WHY they are important just like the coding time of a developer? No, hate comments or comments that add no information to a known bug just "remove" time from developers that can fix the issue, because we have to find a polite-ish way to answer your mail. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.kde.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. _______________________________________________ Okular-devel mailing list Okular-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/okular-devel
