tidak persis seperti itu pak,,, ada batasan2 T.A yg menjaga harga namun karena kondisi global market juga tidak sehat maka saya terkadang meng-kombinasi kan T.A dgn Economic Indicator. namun bila nanti malam ada hal2 yg sangat criucial dan arah nya lebih ke sentiment negatif sore nya saya uda bersih barang ,, i am avoid a T.A for temporary n watch CNBC. just simple strategy trading in risk market. Mon 20 10:00am USD Fed Chairman Bernanke Testifies 10:00am USD CB Leading Index m/m 0.3% -0.2% -0.9% 12:45pm USD FOMC Member Kroszner Speaks Tue Oct 21 7:30pm USD Treasury Sec Paulson Speaks 7:45pm USD FOMC Member Stern Speaks
Regards SAT ----- Original Message ---- From: M Alfatih <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 4:48:19 PM Subject: Re: OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades not realy work? are you sure? 2008/10/21 -sAThya- <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> Begini aja biar adil ............ .. Pak JT kasih info Technical Analysis utk saham Lokal and Pak Kalipatulah kasih info Economic Indicator. karena yg gerakan market saat ini lebih cendrung efek dari negeri paman Sam n global economic reaction. T.A not really works on this situation so keep your eyes on CNBC and Global Economic Indicator. Rgds SAT ----- Original Message ---- From: Pengamat Market <kalipatullah@ yahoo.com> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 3:57:33 PM Subject: Re:OOT [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades A good lady once asked a young man: "I wonder why the elderly and powerful people listen to you? How come?" The young man replied: "Be always honest with yourself, be always honest with God, be always honest to the people, and have always a sincere good and right intention. Then Allah will give you inspiration and power into your heart what to say, when to say and how to say whether it should be said openly(verbal) or secretly, through heart to heart. And they whose heart has been opened by God will listen and follow what you say even if you are just an ordinary child because the Divine inspiration and its power are within your heart. Just remember: be always honest and have always a sincere good and right intention. Then you can do it as I do." nambahin aja dikit --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Rei <highwaystar91@ gmail.com> wrote: From: Rei <highwaystar91@ gmail.com> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stop Telling People About Your Trades To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups.. com Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 3:53 PM Bukan utk memperkeruh diskusi lho, maafkan deh kalo saya ada salah ngomong pak PM... 2008/10/21 conx_2003 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com.au> jangan dibilang pak pengamat market keberatan seperti yg sudah dilansir oleh pak pengamat market dia hanya membagi informasi atas buku yg dia baca.. karena pada dasarnya pak pengamat market juga ingin membagi ilmu / informasi hahahahaha biar diskusinya sehat --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei <highwaystar91@ ...> wrote: > > Pak JT, > > Postingan2 anda saya bilang 100% tidak ada yg negatif, malah membantu > banyak newbie yg trading. Saya tidak tahu kenapa pak Pengamat Market > "keberatan" atas postingan trading pribadi anda, say arasa sah2 > saja...tanda alam? hehe > Yah anggap lah postingan tersebut tidak ada, keep on posting as usual. > Saya yakin 99% menyokong anda, yah normal lah kalo ada 1% yg tidak > setuju. Namanya juga open forum... :-) > > Rei > > > On 10/21/08, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > Sudah lah tidak usah diperdebatkan. .., jadi ngga konsen nih., sampe2 cover > > pgas jadi kecepetan.hehehe. ., let's back to business... > > > > > > > > Saya akan tetap share meskipun akan saya batasi in term of trade position.., > > karena saya pikir memang dalam masa-masa bearish seperti ini sangat > > berbahaya., karena belum tentu level toleransi anda terhadap loss sama > > dengan saya., dan kalau anda rugi saya jadi kepikiran. > > > > > > > > Anyway, saya akan tetap share and help other dengan se-objective mungkin. > > Thanks utk apresiasinya thd posting-posting saya. Keep Hope A live !! > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > JsxTrader > > > > > > > > From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] > > On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > > Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 14:29 > > To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com > > Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades > > > > > > > > Saya pikir, apa yg pak kalipatullah ungkapkan ada benarnya. > > > > Sebaiknya tdk diperdebatkan lagi. Takutnya jadi personal. > > > > Semuanya kembali ke Om JT. Bisa dipertimbangkan baik - buruknya. > > > > Yang jelas, banyak yg belajar dari postingan anda. > > > > Anda memberi semangat bagi newbie dan yg dah kejedut (kayak saya), bahwa > > masih ada celah utk gain saat pasar lagi bearish. > > > > > > > > From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] > > On Behalf Of Richard Ropongi > > Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 5:25 PM > > To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com > > Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades > > > > > > > > Mungkin Anda yang sakit hati pak.. > > > > Kalo kami yg newbie justru banyak belajar dari Mr. JT... > > > > Saya perhatikan justru Mr. JT yg benar2 konsisten sbg trader dan saya yg > > paling salut > > > > beliau berbesar hati utk mengakui kesalahan waktu fail di INCO dan mau > > mereview.. > > > > Tidak seperti yg lain, kalo analisa nya salah, "HILANG" entah kemana, > > > > tapi kalo bener " I TOLD YOU".. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Dari: Pengamat Market <kalipatullah@ ...> > > Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com > > Terkirim: Selasa, 21 Oktober, 2008 13:44:33 > > Topik: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades > > > > > > Yang Disampaikan Mr Louise dalam tulisan diatas sangat sederhana. > > Bagi sebagian orang mungkin kurang penting tapi jika kita mau menelusuri > > lebih lanjut ada hal yang sangat krusial yang mungkin sering kita lupakan > > > > Dengan menceritakan hasil trading kita ke orang lain, mungkin kita telah > > menyakiti orang lain itu. Kenapa begitu?? Jika kita bercerita kita sedang > > profit kepada temen yang kebetulan sedang floating loss hal itu mungkin akan > > membuat mereka sakit hati. Atau mungkin sama-sama dalam kondisi profit tapi > > anda punya posisi 1000 lot sedang teman anda cuman 5 lot. Hal itu juga bisa > > menyakiti teman anda. > > > > Tapi hal yang paling penting sebenarnya adalah untuk menjaga agar penilaian > > kita ke market tetap objektif > > > > --- On Tue, 10/21/08, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: > > > > From: JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> > > Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades > > To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com > > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 1:01 PM > > > > Make sense...., better keep private., ok I'll stop telling people about my > > trade.. Thanks for the reminding. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > JsxTrader > > > > > > > > From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ps.com] On Behalf Of Pengamat Market > > Sent: 21 Oktober 2008 12:50 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com > > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Stop Telling People About Your Trades > > > > > > > > > > Stop telling people about your trades! > > > > Most people feel an overwhelming need to fill any silence with words. If you > > keep telling others about your open positions, you are encouraging them to > > respond. Dr. Alexander elder says, 'Don't talk your book'. While you have > > active trades in the market, it is far better to keep this private, and not > > discuss your successes or failures with another living soul. You do not need > > to hear another person's response regarding your effectiveness or > > ineffectiveness as a trader. > > > > The market will tell you soon enough. Your role is to introspectively work > > on yourself and your trading plan and not rely on others to sympathise or to > > congratulate. What other people thing about you is none of your business. > > > > From the book : Trading Secrets by Louise Bedford > > Page 58 > > > > This post originally posted at: > > www.trendtrader. co.cc > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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