salute.....mental trader memang musti seperti itu.

Mau mengakui kalau salah.

Masa maunya bener mulu ha..ha....

Simple trading yang saya pelajari dari salah satu sesepuh orang surabaya.

Trading itu simple. Kalau yakin masuk... peduli orang lain bilang apa ..
kalau ternyata salah CL..cari salahnya. gitu aja koq repot. Kalau salah
posisi lalu menyalahkan orang lain...kapan jadi orang kaya

ha.ha.....

On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 12:47 PM, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Ngga berani  ketawa ahh…ntar disuruh tobat….hehe, anyway kalau buat saya
> sih ok-ok aja lah…, kalau BUMI minggu depan turun ya kita kabur.., dan ikut
> rombongannya Pak Jos & EL…, wah jadi mesti CL dong? Lah kan sdh tau
> resikonya sebelum ambil posisi…, trus ntar kalau ikut rombongan Om Jos
> taunya tambah nyungsep lagi gimana?…., waaa.., kalau mikirnya begitu ya
> repot.., berarti trading ngga cocok buat anda…
>
>
>
> JsxTrader
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Kim Liong Oei
> *Sent:* 23 Agustus 2008 12:14
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] forecast oil 2009
>
>
>
> - Menurut analyst Deutche Bank - Lewis, minyak akan terus naik di 2009.
> Asumsi ini berdasarkan historical dari tahun 2001.
>
> - Asumsi lain yang berkembang adalah Oil Producer pasti menjaga harga agar
> terus berada di titik tertinggi dalam keseimbangan harga. Saat ini asumsi
> saya ada di level USD 120. Akankah mereka mau jual di bawah USD 100 lagi????
>
>
> Bisa ya, jika:
>
> - ditemukan energi alternative lain yang memadai
>
> - terjadi kemunduran ekonomi dunia yang sangat parah sehingga memerlukan
> keseimbangan harga bawah
>
> - ada kepentingan super power
>
>
>
> Semoga ini bisa membuat Pak JSX dan yang lain yang sudah terlanjur beli
> BUMI menjadi SENANG  ha ha ha ha
>
> Mari tertawa lagi ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
> .......................................
>
>
>
> Reliability of oil supply, demand forecasts challenged
>
>  *Doris Leblond*
> *OGJ Correspondent*
>
> *PARIS, Aug. 22* -- The discrepancies between actual world oil supply and
> demand and the forecasts provided by leading agencies—the International
> Energy Agency, the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, and the US
> Department of Energy—show an unreliable track record since 2001, indicated a
> study recently carried out by Deutsche Bank analyst Michael Lewis.
>
> In his assessment of global oil demand and non-OPEC supply growth, Lewis
> found that, with the exception of 2003-04, all three agencies have been too
> optimistic about the strength of oil demand, with OPEC the most cautious.
> All three agencies have been too optimistic about non-OPEC production
> growth, with DOE the least bullish and therefore the most accurate in its
> forecasts.
>
> Concerning global oil demand growth since 2001, Lewis found that forecasts
> have been "quite similar" in their under or overestimation, with OPEC the
> most accurate over the decade. Lewis worked out that in absolute percentage
> terms, since 2002 OPEC has averaged a forecasting error of 53.5%, compared
> with IEA's and DOE's error rates hovering at 70-75%. OPEC's greater demand
> forecast caution "may help to explain its reluctance to increase oil quotas
> and production for fear of bearish implications for the oil price," said
> Lewis.
>
> However, in 2003-04, "all three agencies underestimated the surge in global
> oil demand and specifically the strength in Chinese and US oil demand during
> those years," he noted. The discrepancy was large in 2004 as DOE forecast
> demand growth of some 1.6 million b/d whereas the actual increase exceeded
> 2.5 million b/d. In contrast, in 2005 DOE overstepped market demand accuracy
> by forecasting a 2 million b/d growth compared with the actual 1.3 million
> b/d.
>
> Regarding oil production, all three agencies' forecasts were relatively
> close to actual non-OPEC growth, which was averaging 1 million b/d for each
> year during 2001-04. But 2005 was the worst forecasting year as non-OPEC oil
> production fell to roughly 0.4 million b/d and the three agencies failed to
> change their growth assumptions, forecasting a non-OPEC production rise of
> 0.93 million b/d. Since then, non-OPEC growth levels have failed to recover
> the early decade levels.
>
> DOE has tended to be the most accurate production forecaster: Since 2001
> DOE has posted a forecasting error of 51% compared with 63% for IEA and 72%
> for OPEC.
>
> Looking into 2009 and taking into account the removal of fuel subsidies in
> many parts of the developing world, Lewis sees DOE's 1.4 million b/d oil
> demand forecast growth as "likely to be too optimistic and even the 0.9
> million b/d assumed by the IEA and OPEC may prove too ambitious if recent
> history is a guide." He said he expects the recent non-OPEC oil production
> rebound since 2005 set to continue in 2009.
>
> With OPEC the most bullish in expecting a strong production rebound, this
> may "provide another clue as to why the cartel [is] likely to be on guard to
> defend against any weakness in the oil price," concluded Lewis.
>
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