I agree to what pak antonius said... plus.. imho... as long people got their asset allocation's right.. even few years wait to get equities back performing isnt much of a problem.. since you can get yields on your other assets on your portfolio.. cmon lar.. investment isnt all just equities wat.. there are gold, silver, platinum, palladium, oil, sugar, wheat and the rest of comms sector.. there are also properties, and varous alternative investments too.. get your assets properly allocated and not correlates to each other.. even stock markets tanked for years u could still be smiling.. :)
antonius martono salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hmm this thread is really meant for traders yah? i just advice all of you guys during this perilous time. just look at company real fundamental. i think this mailing list got a lot of experts on that. dont mention about the market, the kingpin (local or foreign) and last dont be the crowd in the market. take ur time alone, think about every stocks that u hold. forget about the stock and dont waste ur time watching those tickers. remember we buy a part of a company not the paper. don't get tricked by news of sudden sales growth, acquisition, tender offer from a small company which post huge amount of increase in just recent years. again DO YOUR HOMEWORK. i'm a long term, yes i am and please the others do so. 1 year loss in portofolio, fine with me. against 9 year of growth. the dividend still adequate to live on. make it cheaper, burn it fast or slow no problem. i think the real investors here already have investment plan. make it 2000 (IDX) or below and we will see...... indonesia's company generate one of the best result and growth in the world. even for mature stage company. just my humble opinion, regards ----- Original Message ---- From: Elaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 18 June, 2008 7:03:52 PM Subject: Re: Bls: Wanted: NEW captain pilot. was:Re: [obrolan-bandar] The Hell With DOW !!! I'm too lazy to start a new thread. :D Elaine pikir crash juga malah banyak traders senang (check those replies!!) lebih baik bakar pelan saja. Slowly you're all gonna die anyway (unless you're stubborn like kang ocoy) karena tidak bisa short position. Sekarang mau apa? You go long term, but your portfolio shrinks (I'm VERY SURE about this, one year investment just to get NEGATIVE result lol) Mid term you likely to lose, cuz IDX went abruptly AGAINST regionals. Intraday, most of you lose (deceived by your own chart...maybe. Oh yeah, we do know technical) You're unable to trust regional markets. You're unable to trust oil prices. You're unable to trust any posts here (lol hendrik:) You want to kill me for my failed targets. Ahh.. I love this. I never thought IDX fund managers are so dumb that I can get so many at bargain price. Tetapi jangan marah dengan Elaine, karena sama cari uang di market, just like you guys do for all this time...... PS: I'm waiting for your most cynical, hateful, most punishingly cruel replies.. :D Maybe I can take advantage of your emotional instability. Elaine On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Ken Arok <[EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id> wrote: kenapa pake this subject, JEng ? CRASH nya dah kelar ? 2 - 3 days since monday ? : ) kidding.com ----- Pesan Asli ---- Dari: Elaine <you.can.call. me.elaine@ gmail.com> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Rabu, 18 Juni, 2008 16:16:49 Topik: Re: Wanted: NEW captain pilot.. was:Re: [obrolan-bandar] The Hell With DOW !!! :) coal and pulp are considered highly flammable. Anyway I was wrong, I thought everyone knows where the market will go.Thanks a lot. We got your money AND your stocks. Don't hate us, you gave them deliberately. Suck, doesn't it.. Elaine On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Elaine <you.can.call. me.elaine@ gmail.com> wrote: Elaine ingat kemarin ada bilang "nobody knows where the market goes", it's actually misleading. EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE THE MARKET GOES. THEY'RE JUST NOT BEING OBJECTIVE CUZ THEY ARE THE MARKET ITSELF. THEY KNOW WHERE THEY WANT TO GO." Biasa Elaine mau nuke cerita di OB, sekarang diam-diam saja. Kadang retail perlu dihajar juga sekali-sekali. Elaine On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Roegi QQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: i thought today is the day >:) El, katakanlah besok benar2 terjadi crash, or last call for equity, or emas/dollar bergoyang, or badai salju di nigeria , etc, kira2 "WHAT NEXT ?" "APA GA BOSAN?" Pls share if u have one. thx On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Elaine <you.can.call. me.elaine@ gmail.com> wrote: senang tidak mengantuk like we had last week ya. ^_^ Oh well, I miss my prediction about a crash at least for today (lol it was CLOSE, you knew what happened at the end of the day, although I never said it was gonna be today but whatever..), so I guess I have to take a break and cool off a bit. I feel bad OB jadi penuh junk mail. I have to admit, I miscalculated the strength of the local kingpins..umm. . players, but now I know who's who. I'm not signing out, but I'll restrain myself to post for a while. Biasa kalau pesawat tidak ada pilot, pasti crash... >:D PS: If you see a punk kid trying to provoke me AGAIN, please do me a favor, grab a baseball bat and beat him to death. Plz.. ^_^ Just kidding!!! Good luck everyone! love ya! Elaine 2008/6/9 JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>: EL.., give me Smile !! I know you don't want the crash as much as I do…, where we are heading now? Salam, JsxTrader From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Elaine Sent: 09 Juni 2008 16:02 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] The Hell With DOW !!! Thrilling untuk trader ya.. :) Elaine 2008/6/9 JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>: IJOOOO….., BOZZ you do a great Job…. !! Thank You. We have a proven strong support at 2350 Now !! 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