--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "boyz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

nimbrung ah,

Topik "mechanical trading and Artificial Inteligent" udah pernah dibahas
dimilis ini, kok.

Udah pernah denger belom bahwa ada bigfunds yg bangkrut gara-2
menerapkan Mechanical Trading and Artificial Inteligence?
bahkan kalau gak salah pendiri-nya adalah penerima hadiah nobel.

Warren Buffet aja gak pakai komputer and handphone aja kagak punya,
neng.
toh bisa jadi orang terkaya didunia.
hihihi ... kocak abiz ...

kalo super komputer seperti yg disebut El, gw percaya.  emang ada.
tapi with ability to read market psychology?
and ability to mix any kind of information?

No machines can even read a single human psychology.
is there any machine with ability to read market psychology?
hehehe, tell me about it

btw,  Fidessa sama Royal Blue are sophisticated and exotic tools?
kagak banget tuh, cuma software order management biasa gitu lo...


salam,



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine
you.can.call.me.elaine@ wrote:
>
> But it wouldn't be fun at all.... at least for me... and I did
>
explain<http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/657\
\
63>what
> barriers are. Ok, I'll write here again:
>
> *For those who didn't catch up:
> barriers = big, seem unpenetrable offer(bid) queue, effective for
moving the
> price up/down and play a big role in psychological wars
> headshots = phantom bid/offers = sudden (dis)appearing of bids/offers,
ppl
> often lured in this kinda situation, got panicked and cut loss.
>
> Most traders can't see the difference between DONE vs WITHDRAWN. All
they
> see (and belief) is that the BID/OFFERS are GONE. They THOUGHT they
were TRX
> DONE, but the fact is most of the time they were WITHDRAWN (either
partially
> or completely)
>
> That's just an example on how to drive the market prices.
>
> It's difficult to see (for average retail traders) to see what the
"real"
> transactions are (especially in high frequency orders). Most of
> Institutional dealer use special tools to do this (like
> LatentZero/RoyalBlue/Fidessa or Bloomberg TOMS and some more
sophisticated
> and exotic tools).*
>
> I'm not going to get technical (since I'm not a dealer myself), maybe
> someone here can help me about this?. I remember someone  mentioned
about
> Mechanical Trading. If you want to know about it, I suggest try google
first
> :)
>
> Ok, may be you ask "why'd they need that?"
>
> Simple. These robots KNOW ABOUT TECHNICAL, from simple trendline to
the most
> complex formula. They monitor money flow, regional markets, futurues,
cmdy
> prices, fundamentals, currencies even rumors, news and running trades.
They
> can mix any kind of information, and give the best price to be
ordered. They
> literally can READ market psychology, and most of the "core" logic are
to be
> CONTRARIAN.
>
> That's why I said that I don't trade. I set target. Cuz, that's what I
do,
> and I just let these robots do my command. Compared to "mature" market
like
> those in Wall Street, IDX market capitalization are very small. It's
very EASY
> to move it up and down.
>
> One of the real example of Mechanical Trading effect was the Dotcom
Crash in
> 2000, August 07 global crash, and the recent commodity bubble crash.
>
> The firms who used these tools have virtually unlimited resources (aka
> Money) to get what they want, and they're working not just in IDX, but
in
> all markets in the world. Maybe this sounds like a science fiction for
some.
> But this is real. Don't ever try to beat these machines. Well,
actually I
> don't have anything else to explain, since you (Embah) and Oentoeng
are
> already know and aware of it. (Why the hell am I telling you this, I'm
> killing myself..lol)
>
> Oh, fyi we work in groups.
>
> Now, is there any question so far, kids?
>
> Elaine
>

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