haha, kebanyakan saham masih di kategori 1(value) ato 2(growth) ko pak... kadang2 malah ada saham value yg punya genetik growth ato sebaliknya ada saham yg punya genetik growth tapi ditawarin di harga value...
kalo saham kategori3 (monkey), mungkin saham yg udah ga ditopang semua multiplenya lagi, atau kadang multiplenya "sky-high" alias langit.. macem kasus TMPI dan semacamnya... contoh.., Saham dihargain udah di 10 kali revenuenya itu berarti untuk bahkan jika perusahaan bisa manage maksimalin profit margin en cut-out semua biaya di level segini butuh 10 tahun buat balik modal.. that is insane, saham dihargain di 50 kali earning, itu berarti bahkan jika holding periodnya 10 tahun dia harus bisa deliver rata2 pertumbuhan earning hampir 48% per tahun. thats a quite tough job.. mungkin kalo tiap kita beli saham yg "multiple"nya udah edan., tinggal kita tanya ke diri kita rationale kita apa untuk saham ini., why should i buy that at those price??... kira2 gitu.. nah untuk bbrp kasus yg sempat rame di indonesia., kasusnya kebanyakan ya itu.., multiplenya udah "sky-high" yet masih ada aja yg mo nyusun piramida keatasnya.. tinggal nunggu balok piramida dibawahnya ambles aja kalo gitu mah.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Rei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hahaha Kang Ocoy nailed it right on the spot! > Bisa kasih contoh dong Kang versi anda saham2-nya sekalian :D > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "kang_ocoy_maen_saham" > <kang_ocoy_maen_saham@> wrote: > > > > nambahin ; > > > > Buying Baboon or Monkey at $10-$20 when its "Intrinsic-Value" at > $10- > > $20 is called "Value-Investing"... > > > > Buying a special "fast-growing-genetic" Baboon OR Monkey at $35- > $50 > > when its "current-Intrinsic-Value" at $10 - $20 is called "Growth- > > Investing" (Hoping that this special "growing" traits would > delivered > > the increasing "intrinsic price" years to come., though it come > with > > a quite extra risk..) > > > > > > Buying Monkey at $75-$100 when its intrinsic value is only $20., > and > > its growing only on average-moderate level.. hoping that u could > sell > > it later at $150 is called,.. what do u call it eh??.. Monkey- > > Investing??... > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Hendra Santosa" <hendra@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Another one: > > > > > > > > > > > > Once upon a time in a village, a man appeared and announced to > the > > villagers > > > that he would buy monkeys for $10 each. > > > The villagers seeing that there were many monkeys around, went > out > > to the > > > forest, and started catching them. > > > The man bought thousands at $10 and as supply started to > diminish, > > the > > > villagers stopped their effort. He further announced that he > would > > now buy > > > at $20. This renewed the efforts of the villagers and they > started > > catching > > > monkeys again. Soon the supply diminished even further and > people > > started > > > going back to their farms. The offer increased to $25 each and > the > > supply of > > > monkeys became so little that it was an effort to even see a > > monkey, let > > > alone catch it! > > > The man now announced that he would buy monkeys at $50! However, > > since he > > > had to go to the city on some business, his assistant would now > buy > > on his > > > behalf. > > > In the absence of the man, the assistant told the > villagers. "Look > > at all > > > these monkeys in the big cage that the man has collected. I will > > sell them > > > to you at $35 and when the man returns from the city, you can > sell > > them to > > > him for $50 each." > > > The villagers rounded up with all their savings and bought all > the > > monkeys. > > > Then they never saw the man nor his assistant ever again, only > > monkeys > > > everywhere! > > > > > > Now you have a better understanding of how the stock market > works. > > > > > > Summary: don't buy monkey stock hehehe :D > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On Behalf Of Hendra Santosa > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:01 PM > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: To Pak SB : Average Down > 1,2,3,5,8 > > > > > > > > > > > > The public is right 80% of the time about stocks, and pros are > > wrong 80% of > > > the time, but pros make money and most retail investors don't, > and > > here's > > > why. The public does something like this: Make $100, make $100, > > make $200, > > > make $100, make $50, make $100, lose $10,000. They take small > > profits and > > > then stick with a colossal loser. The pros do the opposite: They > > lose $100, > > > lose $100, lose $200, lose $50, make $10,000 -- and then add to > the > > trade > > > until they've made $100,000 because the market is telling them > it's > > the > > > right trade. The public never adds to their winners, and that is > > why they > > > always lose in the long run. If it weren't so sad, it would be > > funny. > > > > > >
