hehehehehehehe....it's a thin border between bull and shit...... James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If all of you join me to that broker then how I can short sell?
On 4/11/07, mr.bearish_forever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wow bisa bearish 1 bulan? Dimana tuh? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Java Weka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I second that. follow this conversation closely yet no straight direction > seen, please info :) > > On 4/11/07, Frederick Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > just gimme the name of broking companies that can facilitate a one-month > > short sell.... > > desperately curious....hehehehe > > > > *James Arifin < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > > > hhehehe ... absolutely agreed but if you believe wave counting then there > > is time for correction and do you want to dive with the correction wave or > > do you want to ride it? It's your choice > > > > On 4/10/07, Mr. T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Just remember: > > > > > > "Bulls make money, Bears make money, Pigs just get slaughtered" > > > > > > another one: > > > > > > "Never short sell on valuations!!" Do not short sell just because you > > > think the price of such a security is too high, based on valuation. Stocks > > > that are expensive tends to get more expensive, some investment manager > > > somewhere is just gonna crush you with their buying, so you would never have > > > time to buy back in cheaper. - Jim Cramer "Real Money" > > > > > > example: TINS.JK > > > > > > > > > *hadizhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > > > > > Terima kasih untuk rekomendasi short selling yang disampaikan pak > > > James. Kalau saja banyak dari kita-kita ini bisa menjalankan > > > rekomendasi tersebut dalam prakteknya. Namun apa daya, fasilitas > > > untuk short selling tak punya. Yang menjadi kendala bagi sebagian > > > kita-kita ini (saya :-)adalah bagaimana menemukan sekuritas yang > > > memberikan fasilitas short selling, bisa seminggu saja sudah cukup, > > > apalagi yang bisa satu bulan. Adakah syarat-syarat tertentu, misalnya > > > besar permodalan, kedekatan hubungan (dengan sekuritas), dll agar > > > bisa mendapat fasilitas short selling. Kalau sekiranya berkenan, > > > bolehlah kiranya pak James atau para sesepuh lainnya memberikan > > > petunjuk sekuritas mana yang memberi fasilitas short selling, serta > > > persyaratannya apa saja, Apakah ada sekuritas online seperti etrading > > > dll yang memberikan fasilitas short selling ini. Dengan adanya > > > informasi ini, harapannya adalah kita-kita tidak sekedar melongo > > > mendengar anjuran pak James, melainkan bisa ikut nyemplung berenang > > > bersama pak James. > > > > > > Terima kasih untuk petunjuknya sekecil apapun petunjuk itu. > > > > > > Hadi > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > "balifade" <balifade@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > ---saya tidak jarang short pagi, menjelang siang harga dah turun > > > > dikit tapi jelang penutupan harga naik tinggi, terpaksa deh bb eh > > > > besok paginya hrga turun banyak. kalo short bisa 1 bln asik bgt > > > tuh, > > > > gimana bung james dan sesepuh2 bagi ilmunya dong.thx > > > > > > > > > > > > In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > "Susanto Winarto" > > > > <susanto_winarto@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Pak James, > > > > > > > > > > Short sell itu, menurut saya lebih beasr untung2an-nya > > > dibanding > > > > analisanya kali yah? > > > > > Kadang harga sudah terlalu tinggi, tapi tetep aja naik terus.... > > > > > Kadang udah naik, sorenya jadi minus... > > > > > Mohon pencerahannya pak... > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Mr. Boen > > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 3:45 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Short Sell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > berat dech bang rasanya ... > > > > > > > > > > any way, saya kayaknya mesti banyak belajar dulu nih . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/9/07, James Arifin < james.arifin@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rekomendasi saya bisa saja salah, contohnya ANTM hari ini > > > balik > > > > dan harusnya siapa saja yang short sell di bawah 14000 harus pasang > > > > cut loss di 14050-14100, sehingga implikasi dari berbaliknya market > > > > dari analisa TA tetap terantisipasi. Next level untuk short ANTM di > > > > 15500 kalau tercapai, silakan test short sell lagi tapi ingat stop > > > > loss dan don't be greedy kalau sudah turun jangan ingin untung > > > gede2 > > > > karena market overall masih bullish dan short sell saat ini hanya > > > > untuk mengikuti pergerakan market saja ... > > > > > > > > > > Semoga bermanfaat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/9/07, Bambang S <bangsur@> wrote: > > > > > saya sudah coba cuma 2 lot seh di tins jual kamis > > > > > kemarin di 12 850 td pagi beli lagi 12350 mayan > > > > > kan...........buat coba2 aja ko > > > > > > > > > > --- Giri < giriacckl@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Memang sih bebas dan suka2. Short sell di saat pasar > > > > > > bullish ini beresiko sangat tinggi kecuali ilmunya > > > > > > sudah tinggi. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan untuk bulan April ini, LKQ1 07 akan keluar. IHSG > > > > > > baru break new high. Bila ada yang berani short > > > > > > sell, silahkan saja... > > > > > > > > > > > > Selamat mencoba, semoga Oentung.... > > > > > > > > > > > > peace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: Johand Dimalouw > > > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com<obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 10:14 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Short Sell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bebas, suka-suka. Tiada yang punya kuasa untuk > > > > > > larang khan. > > > > > > JD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > > > From: Giri < giriacckl@> > > > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 9:07:10 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Short Sell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saya juga geleng2 kepala aja... > > > > > > jadi tripping.... :D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: James Arifin > > > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com > > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 7:24 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Short Sell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > khan short sell bisa satu bulan .. kalau satu > > > > > > hari mah cuma jualan nyawa ... ini rekomendasi buat > > > > > > 1-5 hari doang ... rekomendasi buy sudah banyak ... > > > > > > jadi yah saya kasih rekomendasi short sell aja tapi > > > > > > short term ... ingat tetap pakai cut loss ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/6/07, Halim Mintareja <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Buset... lagi nge bull gini pikir nge-short. > > > > > > > > > > > > Danger oei... ngelawan arus.. apalagi > > > > > > rata-rata BC semua. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kalau saya sih lebih suka duduk manis sambil > > > > > > tunggu reversal. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sama seperti menangkap pisau jatuh... nge > > > > > > short saat BULL sama saja dengan menahan banteng > > > > > > lari. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nekad.. salah-salah kena denda gara-gara ngak > > > > > > bisa setor barang > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/5/07, James Arifin <james.arifin@ > > > > > > gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Beberapa saham menjadi potensi short sell: > > > > > > > > > > > > BBCA > > > > > > BBRI > > > > > > UNTR > > > > > > ANTM > > > > > > INCO > > > > > > TINS > > > > > > TLKM > > > > > > BNGA > > > > > > BDMN > > > > > > ISAT > > > > > > PGAS > > > > > > > > > > > > happy cuan ... please do not to greedy yah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > The fish are biting. > > > > > > Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! 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