--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Halim Mintareja"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
>
> kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah "in deep shit"
>
> kalau LK masih show "baik-baik aja" model BBRI BMRI etc forget it
lah..
> .risk vs reward gak sebanding
>
Pak Halim,
Gimana kalo pilih bank yg Laporan Keuangannya bagus tapi
PER dan COP nya in deep shit seperti BDMN, ini kan bank
dibackup ama Temasek ?.
- Risk: Say 50%
- Reward: Say 200% in 1 or 2 years
Kalo cara pak Halim gimana, masih belum jelas nih ?.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >
> >> Pak Rei,
> >> Let me give you some clues:
> >>
> >> Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
> >> Com Metal : ANTM, TINS, INCO
> >> Agriculture : AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
> >> Energy : PGAS
> >> Banking : BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
> >> Infra Structure : TLKM, ISAT
> >> Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
> >> Optional : ASII, UNTR, HEXA
> >>
> >> Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau .......
> >> Tinggal pilih aja.......
> >> Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur......
> >> "BUY" disaat market berdarah-darah,
> >> lebih dalem....., belinya tambah banyak........
> >>
> >> simple 'kan?!
> >> he... he...
> >>
> >> Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.........,
> >> milis OB... B U B A R dech.......
> >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially
energy and
> >>> agriculture products), property and had been working in some
banking and
> >>> also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with
business
> >>> diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in
past. And
> >>> always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they reach
my target
> >>> price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my
portfolio. It's
> >>> my "RAHASIA DAPUR". No one knows except my trader. I've 3
trader at 3
> >>> different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3
accounts what
> >>> should i do to be a good investor, because i used different
method on my 3
> >>> accounts. *
> >>> **
> >>> *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What
i'm trying
> >>> to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, i always
buy them if
> >>> i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS for me..
> >>> So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do
FILTERING, and if
> >>> possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and do
some
> >>> valuation.*
> >>> *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not
good in TA
> >>> so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much for
MBah, Pak
> >>> JT, EL, and others).*
> >>> *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member.
Thank you
> >>> very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
> >>> *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio ("RAHASIA
> >>> DAPUR"....HEHE..BUKAN "RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR" YA?).*
> >>> **
> >>> *Luv u all,*
> >>> **
> >>> *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
> >>> **
> >>> **
> >>> **
> >>> *Regards,*
> >>> **
> >>> *SF FM*
> >>> *Where you can trust your fund*
> >>> --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
> >>>
> >>> From: Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> >>> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
> >>> Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
com<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not
forget that
> >>>> some big BD (some of them are friends of mine....I'm not
joking.....I'm
> >>>> telling you----> remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement)
still try to
> >>>> sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not
a trader, i'm
> >>>> just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find the
undervalued
> >>>> one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send
WARNING if
> >>>> something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look at
some of my
> >>>> post. Actually i love stocks that i'm involved in. Long term
view will be
> >>>> great (buy and just hold) but short term view (like trading or
bargain
> >>>> hunter) would be in extreme position (either earned so much or
lost their
> >>>> money so much).
> >>>> If you are a trader, just PLAY carefully. If you are the
owner, then BUY
> >>>> carefully.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> SF FM
> >>>> Where you can trust your fund
> >>>> *
> >>>>
> >>>> --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
com<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>> >* wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> From: JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> >>>> Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> >>>> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com <obrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>> Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:00 AM
> >>>>
> >>>> I really don't know Sir.., saya friend of both.., kalau
lagi cash
> >>>> ikut Pak Oen, kalau lagi Full ikut Bull
.haha, they both give
so many
> >>>> opportunity for trader
., tapi saya akan lawan orang-orang yg
Cuma bisa
> >>>> menebarkan FEAR doang, karena sangat merugikan orang lain
,
sebab basically,
> >>>> tampa mesti ditakut-takuti, mereka sdh terlalu ketakutan dan
gampang panic.
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, seperti kata Mbah, market lama-lama juga imun sama
DOW.., jangan
> >>>> lupa, bargain hunter siap serbu wall street as usual
, don't
you think so,
> >>>> Sir?
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> JsxTrader
> >>>>
> >>>> *From:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> ps.com] *On Behalf Of *SyIFA Fund
> >>>> *Sent:* 02 Desember 2008 10:49
> >>>> *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> >>>> *Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> >>>>
> >>>> * Incredible struggling from what so called BULL WARRIOR Pak
> >>>> JT...hebuattttt. ...against the BEAR????.... .what an amazing
market....BULL
> >>>> v.s BEAR (which one you will pick to be the winner for
today)????
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> SF FM
> >>>> Where you can trust your fund
> >>>> *
> >>>>
> >>>> --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com>* wrote:
> >>>> From: JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
> >>>> Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> >>>> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> >>>> Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 3:41 AM
> >>>> Wah banyak yg bisa dibekel tuh
., dipilih-dipilih
., udh
seringkan
> >>>> kejadian seperti hari ini kan? Dua hari lalu saat banyak yg
> >>>> terbengong-bengong liat IHSG naik kenceng, pasti banyak yg
mengharapkan
> >>>> koreksi seperti hari ini
, hehe.., saya masih nawar PTBA sama
TLKM nih
, lom
> >>>> dikasih-kasih
, PGAS kelihatannya cukup kuat, so far BDnya
sangat
> >>>> 'bertanggung jawab'
hehe
> >>>>
> >>>> Dalam masa sideways ini, gereral rulenya; Buy at support..,
Sell at
> >>>> resistance
> >>>>
> >>>> *From:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> ps.com] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
> >>>> *Sent:* 02 Desember 2008 9:49
> >>>> *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> >>>> *Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> >>>>
> >>>> Pak JT,
> >>>> kalo ngeliat ada yg bisa dicopet2, kabar2-i ya.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> *From:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> ps.com] *On Behalf Of *JsxTrader
> >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 December 2008 12:46 PM
> >>>> *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> >>>> *Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> >>>>
> >>>> 15 menit pertama ngga jelek-jelek amat lah
, awas kegocek
bule !!
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