Steffen,
I am surprised and somewhat startled by the tone in your message.
My message to this list was clearly intended to find the rough
consensus that is missing - that's why I pointed to the two
threads of discussions - and not to ignore the usual IETF processes.
Am 13.11.24 um 22:34 schrieb Steffen Schwalm:
great work! Looking at [1] and [2] there`s obviously no
consensus – which implies a breach of Sections 1.2, 5 and 9.2 of
the IETF Directives on Internet Standards Process.
These are strong accusations. I presume you're referring to RFC
2026 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2026>? How would
Sections 5 and 9.2 apply here, even remotely?
An assumption is great but not sufficient as in any
standardization body.
Again, finding this consensus is precisely what my previous
message intended. Maybe this got lost in translation.
According to IETF rules the consensus shall be ensured before
announcement of new version.
In my understanding and experience in this group, draft versions
are just that - drafts. They can be changed at any time and this
can include reverting previous changes if the working group comes
to the conclusion that that is required. A new draft version can
be the trigger to start a discussion to find rough consensus on a
specific topic.
As far as I know, there is no part in the IETF rules that says
that consensus on any change must be ensured before publication
of a new draft version.
The profiling you suggest is technically the worst solution as
it leads directly to additional effort to ensure
interoperability between fundamental standard and its profiles
and extend complexity unnecessarily. Means the inclusion of DID
in SD-JWT-VC shall be discussed with the relevant experts such
as Markus Sabadello, Alen Horvat etc. Decision making based on
actual consensus not assumed one.
As above - this discussion is exactly what I wanted to trigger.
It needs to happen here on this list. If the outcome is that the
DID references should be preserved, we'll do so.
Formal appeal acc. Section 6.5 of IETF Directives on Internet
Standards Process will follow in case the IETF directives will
still be ignored.
Ok.
-Daniel
Best
Steffen
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*Betreff:* [OAUTH-WG] Re: I-D Action:
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Hi all,
we are happy to announce version -06 of SD-JWT VC. In this
release, we're updating the media type from
application/vc+sd-jwt to application/dc+sd-jwt (for background,
see Brian's excellent summary at the IETF meeting last week [0]).
This version also removes references to DIDs in the
specification, while leaving the door open for those who want to
define a profile of SD-JWT VC using DIDs. The previously
provided text on DIDs was underspecified and therefore not
helpful, and a more complete specification would exceed the
scope of this document while interoperability issues would
remain. We think that those ecosystems wanting to use DIDs are
best served by defining a profile for doing so.
We would like to point out that there are concerns about this
step raised both in the respective issue [1] and in the pull
request [2]. While it is our understanding from various
discussions that there is a consensus for the removal of the
references to DIDs in the group, this change had not been
discussed here on the mailing list before. So we'd like to take
this opportunity to do that now.
As a minor point, this version adds the “Status” field for the
well-known URI registration per IANA early review.
-Daniel
[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvIBqlHkuXY
[1] https://github.com/oauth-wg/oauth-sd-jwt-vc/issues/250
[2] https://github.com/oauth-wg/oauth-sd-jwt-vc/pull/251
Am 13.11.24 um 21:45 schrieb internet-dra...@ietf.org:
Internet-Draft draft-ietf-oauth-sd-jwt-vc-06.txt is now available. It
is a
work item of the Web Authorization Protocol (OAUTH) WG of the IETF.
Title: SD-JWT-based Verifiable Credentials (SD-JWT VC)
Authors: Oliver Terbu
Daniel Fett
Brian Campbell
Name: draft-ietf-oauth-sd-jwt-vc-06.txt
Pages: 53
Dates: 2024-11-13
Abstract:
This specification describes data formats as well as validation and
processing rules to express Verifiable Credentials with JSON
payloads
with and without selective disclosure based on the SD-JWT
[I-D.ietf-oauth-selective-disclosure-jwt] format.
The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-oauth-sd-jwt-vc/
There is also an HTML version available at:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-oauth-sd-jwt-vc-06.html
A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-oauth-sd-jwt-vc-06
Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
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