It might be worth reviewing how updates or changes are made available to a 
completed “Proposed Standard”.

In my experience I’ve seen:


  *   Errata
  *   An updated version noted as RFC xxxx bis (where bis is Old Latin for 
“repeat”)
  *   A new Internet-Draft which, if promoted to “Proposed Standard” may 
obsolete or deprecate all or a portion of a previous RFC.

I’m pretty sure I’ve mangled the part about “obsolete” and “deprecate” but 
hopefully that helps some.

Pierce

From: Justin Richer <jric...@mit.edu>
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To: Lee, Matt D <Matt.Lee=40kbslp.cl...@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: oauth@ietf.org
Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Re: RFC 9068

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My apologies - I just realized that I mistakenly typed "RFC6086" on the first 
part of the message, to be clear the entire comment is in fact about RFC9068.

 — Justin


On Oct 10, 2024, at 9:48 AM, Justin Richer 
<jric...@mit.edu<mailto:jric...@mit.edu>> wrote:

Hi Matt,

RFC6086 is published and final — there is not ongoing work on that document, 
because it is complete. I’m sure there is also other work happening all around 
about profiling JWTs for specific purposes and circumstances.

The wording of "Proposed Standard" can be confusing. It does not mean that the 
document is still in process. Instead, it speaks to the nature of organizations 
like the IETF: we can only really propose and describe standards, it’s the 
implementations that make those standards concrete in the real world.

With that in mind, the best way to continue the work of RFC9068 is to implement 
it and advocate for others to implement it as well.

 — Justin


On Oct 8, 2024, at 4:41 PM, Lee, Matt D 
<Matt.Lee=40kbslp.cl...@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:Matt.Lee=40kbslp.cl...@dmarc.ietf.org>>
 wrote:

First, my sincerest condolences regarding the loss of Vittorio Bertocci, 
someone who had an astonishing impact on the industry and community at large.

I was reminded of this loss today as I was having a conversation with some 
peers about the optional nature of the sub claim in JWTs used in OAuth grants. 
After we searched for guidance we found this proposed standard from Vittorio 
that would move sub from optional to required, and wondered if anyone was 
picking this up now that he has passed.

Thank you

Matt Lee | KGS Enterprise Architect
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