We all know that TLS certificates are handled by platform layers used by
applications and not the applications themselves. There is no code that
understands X.509 certificates in most applications that use TLS. They are not
equivalent in complexity.
The draft would require adding code directly understanding the structure and
fields of X.509 to applications using it. Eliminate that, and I’ll support
adoption.
-- Mike
From: Richard Barnes <r...@ipv.sx>
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 8:18 PM
To: Michael Jones <michael_b_jo...@hotmail.com>
Cc: Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.i...@gmail.com>; oauth <oauth@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Re: Call for adoption - PIKA
The applications we're talking about are **already** doing X.509 when they make
HTTPS connections. It's not a new requirement. The only thing we're doing is
using the certificate for JWT instead of HTTPS.
--RLB
On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 11:15 PM Michael Jones
<michael_b_jo...@hotmail.com<mailto:michael_b_jo...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
As both I and Giuseppe pointed out, the requirement for applications to use and
understand X.509 certificates means that the draft is way beyond the minimum
complexity needed.
Eliminate application-level X.509 (which is an anachronism that OAuth and JOSE
have moved away from), and I’ll support adoption of the next draft.
-- Mike
From: Richard Barnes <r...@ipv.sx<mailto:r...@ipv.sx>>
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 8:11 PM
To: Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.i...@gmail.com<mailto:rifaat.s.i...@gmail.com>>
Cc: oauth <oauth@ietf.org<mailto:oauth@ietf.org>>
Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Re: Call for adoption - PIKA
In case it's not clear from other messages in this thread: I think this draft
should be adopted. It solves several pressing use cases, with the minimal
amount of complexity needed.
--Richard
On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 7:47 AM Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
<rifaat.s.i...@gmail.com<mailto:rifaat.s.i...@gmail.com>> wrote:
All,
This is an official call for adoption for the Proof of Issuer Key Authority
(PIKA) draft:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barnes-oauth-pika/
Please, reply on the mailing list and let us know if you are in favor or
against adopting this draft as WG document, by June 24th.
Regards,
Rifaat & Hannes
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