> On Aug 23, 2023, at 10:16 AM, Watson Ladd <watsonbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2023, 3:35 AM Daniel Fett <m...@danielfett.de> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Watson,
>> 
>> can you please be specific about the "standard, 22 year old security 
>> definitions" and "schemes of this type"?
>> 
>> Not having to make assumptions would certainly help to have a useful 
>> discussion.
> 
> Unlinkability as defined in CL01
> (https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/3-540-44987-6_7) . The
> security considerations section of the draft does explicitly admit
> this shortcoming.

Could you elaborate more on what you think is standard (and in what context) 
and what do you consider “schemes of this type”

For example, are you talking about properties for anonymous credentials from 
the academic space as set by [Chaum85] or perhaps [CL01]? Or maybe are you 
talking toward some existing requirements specified by a regulated space?

Assuming you are speaking primarily to multi-use unlinkability, there are 
efforts within the broader IETF ecosystem around that -  such as an effort to 
describe BBS usage within the CFRG, and proposals/efforts to leverage that 
within privacypass and jose. Those obviously will not have the benefit of being 
able to be implemented on top of broadly available and accepted cryptographic 
operations. I would refer to these as trade-offs rather than shortcomings.

-DW
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