Hi Alex,

I see what you mean, in Section 4.4.1 with the implicit flow, the sequence
ends with the redirect back to the client from H-AS with the access token.
Steps 5 and 6 don't happen with the implicit flow, so "works as above"
isn't descriptive enough.

The paper describes a slightly different way the attacker gets the access
token, which is after the client attempts to use the access token from H-AS
to retrieve resources from A-RS or retrieve user info from A-AS. I believe
the description of the implicit variant in the Security BCP should be
updated to make this more clear.

Thanks!

Aaron



On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 6:23 AM Alexander Rademann <
alexander.radem...@web.de> wrote:

>
>
> *Hello, everyone!Section 4.4.1 of the BCP
> <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-oauth-security-topics-23.html#section-4.4.1>
> draft lists several variants of mix-up attacks; the description of the
> Implicit grant variant reads as follows: "In the implicit grant, the
> attacker receives an access token instead of the code; the rest of the
> attack works as above."Given the attack description in that section, it is
> not clear to me why an attacker would receive the access token and which
> part the "rest of the attack" refers to. When the Implicit grant is used,
> H-AS sends the access token (via redirect) to the user agent, which
> extracts it and sends it to the client. However, the client does not send
> the access token to A-AS, does it? (I hope that I didn’t overlook anything
> in that section.)*
>
>
>
> *I also checked the referenced paper <https://arxiv.org/abs/1601.01229>;
> there, the authors assume that the access token is sent to the
> authorization server under the control of the attacker (or, using their
> terminology, identity provider) to access some resource. [Appendix B, p.
> 31ff] Perhaps this (or some similar) assumption should be added to the
> description of this variant?I'm sorry if I missed anything or if this has
> already been addressed before, I'm new to this mailing list and did not
> find anything in the archives.Kind regardsAlex*
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