Although the IETF has been involved in Best Commercial Practices (BCP) (see
https://www.ietf.org/rfc/bcp-index.txt )  which I think was the subject of
Kevat's original email. 

 

So perhaps this is a subject matter that could co-exist in both the IETF and
W3C?

 

 

 

From: OAuth <oauth-boun...@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Tim Cappalli
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Specifications for Identity Providers

 

I don't think there is explicit ownership, but generally password and magic
link type "stuff" happens in W3C.

 

There are existing work efforts around standardizing password reset endpoint
discovery, password complexity schemas, etc.

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That's a good point. Is it fair to assume that W3C owns the standards for
most (if not all) standards related to Identity Providers? Or does it make
sense for IETF to start setting these standards in cases where W3C standards
don't exist?

 

- Kevat

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021, 2:56 PM Tim Cappalli <tim.cappa...@microsoft.com
<mailto:tim.cappa...@microsoft.com> > wrote:

I believe this topic would be more W3C scope, not IETF.

 

tim

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I propose that we expand upon specific functionality provided by Identity
Providers (IdPs) and tasks handled by them.

 

To start with, there should be clear specifications for various
functionalities that IdPs provide such as:

 

- Email verification on registration

- Specifications regarding "forgot password" functionality

- Specifications regarding "resest password" functionality for users that
are logged in

 

 

These specifications only pertain to Identity Providers, and allow an
industry-wide set of rules that each Identity Provider must follow. The
purpose of doing so would be to standardize various frequently used and
implemented flows that are secure and widely reusable.

 

 

 

Some problems that would be addressed by these specifications would be:

 

- How to securely implement functionality where a user is sent a link to
verify their email address

 

- How to securely implement functionality where a user is sent a
verification code to verify their email address

 

- How to securely implement functionality where a user is sent a link to
reset their password 

 

- How to securely implement functionality where a user is sent a
verification code to reset their password

 

 

 

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