> Am 08.02.2021 um 00:56 schrieb Warren Parad <wpa...@rhosys.ch>:
> 
> 
>> I‘m therefore leaning towards explicitly stating in our draft that it is not 
>> intended to be used with refresh tokens.
> I'm not following, why explicitly state that it isn't intended. If an AS 
> wants to provide a similar JSON response to a query with the refresh token, 
> why not encourage that?

Why should we encourage it? 

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>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 10:58 PM Torsten Lodderstedt 
>> <torsten=40lodderstedt....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>> Hi Andrii,
>> 
>>>> Am 07.02.2021 um 21:30 schrieb Andrii Deinega <andrii.dein...@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Torsten,
>>> 
>>> thank you for your response.
>>> 
>>> My use case is pretty straight forward
>>> 
>>> An OAuth client queries the AS to determine the active state of an access 
>>> token and gets the introspection response which indicates that this access 
>>> token is active (using RFC7662).
>>> 
>>> An OAuth client queries the AS to determine the active state of a refresh 
>>> token and gets the introspection response which indicates that this refresh 
>>> token is active (using RFC7662).
>>> 
>>> An OAuth client queries the AS to determine the active state of an access 
>>> token and gets the introspection response (JWT) which indicates that this 
>>> access token is active (using this draft).
>>> 
>>> Now, an OAuth client queries the AS to determine the active state of a 
>>> refresh token (using this draft)... How will the introspection response 
>>> look like assuming that the client provides the valid refresh token and 
>>> technically, nothing stops it from doing so.
>> 
>> why should the state be provided as JWT?I think the plain JSON response is 
>> sufficient in that case.  I also think using token introspection for 
>> checking the state of a token from the client side has limited utility. The 
>> definitive decision is always made when the client tries to access a 
>> resource. 
>> 
>> I‘m therefore leaning towards explicitly stating in our draft that it is not 
>> intended to be used with refresh tokens.
>> 
>> best regards,
>> Torsten.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Andrii
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 4:14 AM Torsten Lodderstedt 
>>>> <tors...@lodderstedt.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi Andrii,
>>>> 
>>>> thanks for your post. 
>>>> 
>>>> The draft is intended to provide AS and RS with a solution to exchange 
>>>> signed (and optionally encrypted) token introspection responses in order 
>>>> to provide stronger assurance among those parties. This is important in 
>>>> use cases where the RS acts upon the introspection response data and wants 
>>>> the AS to take liability re the data quality. 
>>>> 
>>>> I’m not sure whether there are similar use cases if a client introspects a 
>>>> refresh token. What is your use case?
>>>> 
>>>> best regards,
>>>> Torsten.  
>>>> 
>>>> > Am 07.02.2021 um 08:41 schrieb Andrii Deinega <andrii.dein...@gmail.com>:
>>>> > 
>>>> > Hi WG,
>>>> > 
>>>> > draft-ietf-oauth-jwt-introspection-response-10 states that "OAuth 2.0 
>>>> > Token Introspection [RFC7662] specifies a method for a protected 
>>>> > resource to query an OAuth 2.0 authorization server to determine the 
>>>> > state of an access token and obtain data associated with the access 
>>>> > token." which is true. Although, according to RFC7662, the introspection 
>>>> > endpoint allows to introspect a refresh token as well. Hence, the 
>>>> > question I have is how will a token introspection response look like 
>>>> > when the caller provides a refresh token and sets the "Accept" HTTP 
>>>> > header to "application/token-introspection+jwt"?
>>>> > 
>>>> > I expect there will be no differences, right?
>>>> > 
>>>> > If so, I suggest to
>>>> >       • replace "a resource server" by "the caller" in section 4 
>>>> > (Requesting a JWT Response)
>>>> >       • change "If the access token is invalid, expired, revoked" by "If 
>>>> > a given token is invalid, expired, revoked" in section 5 (JWT Response)
>>>> > If not, my suggestion would be to clarify what the AS should do when it 
>>>> > asked to introspect the refresh token in general and additionally, what 
>>>> > should happen in the same case based on the type of the caller from the 
>>>> > AS's point of view.
>>>> > 
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> > Andrii
>>>> > 
>>>> 
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