On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 2:51 PM n-sakimura <n-sakim...@nri.co.jp> wrote:

> That works.
>
> In fact, I would further go and say MUST NOT but that probably is too much
> for a security consideration.
>
>
Personally I think it's fine for a MUST NOT to appear in a security
consideration section of a BCP. If you break it, then you're not following
the BCP.

We did exactly this in BCP 212:

"This best current
   practice requires that native apps MUST NOT use embedded user-agents
   to perform authorization requests
"

William

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> *差出人:* Torsten Lodderstedt <tors...@lodderstedt.net>
> *送信日時:* 水曜日, 11月 28, 2018 11:38 午後
> *宛先:* n-sakimura
> *Cc:* Dick Hardt; Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org
> *件名:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Security Topics -- Recommend authorization
> code instead of implicit
>
> Hi Nat,
>
> Am 28.11.2018 um 21:10 schrieb n-sakimura <n-sakim...@nri.co.jp>:
>
> I would support
>
> 1) clearly defining Implicit as the flow that returns access token from
> the authorization endpoint ( some people confuses implicit as the flow that
> returns ID Token in the front channel)
>
>
> That’s the current text:
>
> In order to avoid these issues, Clients SHOULD NOT use the implicit
>    grant or any other response type causing the authorization server to
>    issue an access token in the authorization response.
>
> What would you like to modify?
>
>
> 2) Banning the returning of the access token that are not sender
> constrained from the authorization endpoint
>
>
> In order to avoid these issues, Clients SHOULD NOT use the implicit
>    grant or any other response type causing the authorization server to
>    issue an access token in the authorization response*, if this access
> tokens is not sender-constraint.*
>
> What about this?
>
> kind regards,
> Torsten.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Nat
>
>
> Outlook for iOS を入手
>
> 差出人: OAuth <oauth-boun...@ietf.org> (Dick Hardt <dick.ha...@gmail.com>
> の代理)
> 送信日時: 水曜日, 11月 28, 2018 8:58 午後
> 宛先: Hannes Tschofenig
> Cc: oauth@ietf.org
> 件名: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Security Topics -- Recommend authorization code
> instead of implicit
>
> +1
>
> While there are various mechanisms to alleviate some of the issues of
> implicit, I don't think we can recommend specifics, and there may be future
> ones in the future. I think we all agree that implicit without any
> mitigation is problematic.
>
> How about we recommend against using implicit alone?
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 2:34 AM Hannes Tschofenig <
> hannes.tschofe...@arm.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The authors of the OAuth Security Topics draft came to the conclusion that
> it is not possible to adequately secure the implicit flow against token
> injection since potential solutions like token binding or JARM are in an
> early stage of adoption. For this reason, and since CORS allows
> browser-based apps to send requests to the token endpoint, Torsten
> suggested to use the authorization code instead of the implicit grant in
> call cases in his presentation (see
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/slides-103-oauth-sessb-draft-ietf-oauth-security-topics-01
> ).
>
> A hum in the room at IETF#103 concluded strong support for his
> recommendations. We would like to confirm the discussion on the list.
>
> Please provide a response by December 3rd.
>
> Ciao
>
> Hannes & Rifaat
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