Hi Nat

Currently, you are the only one actively taking the position of
Link-header. Perhaps you can educate the broader WG on the value of using
Link-header over WWW-Authenticate?

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:27 PM n-sakimura <n-sakim...@nri.co.jp> wrote:

> Hmmm. But the Link-header is the generalized discovery method which is
> pretty widely used outside of OAuth community with the added benefit of
> being able to find things without linking to authentication.
>
>
>
> *From:* OAuth <oauth-boun...@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *George Fletcher
> *Sent:* Friday, November 09, 2018 12:12 AM
> *To:* Dick Hardt <dick.ha...@gmail.com>; gffletch=40aol....@dmarc.ietf.org
> *Cc:* oauth@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] AS Discovery in Distributed Draft
>
>
>
> Cool! Sorry I couldn't make the meeting. One benefit of using
> WWW-Authenticate is that UMA has basically the same discovery logic (from
> RS to AS) and uses the WWW-Authenticate header. Keeping this discovery
> method the same (since UMA is just a profile of OAuth anyway) will help all
> developers.
>
> On 11/8/18 5:16 AM, Dick Hardt wrote:
>
> George: in the WG meeting we discussed this topic of where to put the
> discovery information. No one at the meeting advocated for using Link
> response (Nat was the one who was advocating for this). Many others
> preferred using the www-authenticate header similar to how you propose.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 4:08 AM George Fletcher <gffletch=
> 40aol....@dmarc.ietf.org <40aol....@dmarc.ietf..org>> wrote:
>
> Related to this discussion of AS discovery... what is the value of using
> the Link response header over just returning the variables in the
> WWW-Authenticate header? Could we not use...
>
> WWW-Authenticate: OAuth realm="example_realm", scope="example_scope",
> error="invalid_token", rs_uri="https://api.example.com/resource";
> <https://api.example.com/resource>, as_uri=
> "https://as1.example.com,https://as2.example.com";
> <https://as1.example.com,https:/as2.example.com>
>
> Thanks,
> George
>
> On 11/6/18 12:19 AM, Justin P Richer wrote:
>
> In the meeting tonight I brought up a response to the question of whether
> to have full URL or plain issuer for the auth server in the RS response’s
> header. My suggestion was that we have two different parameters to the
> header to represent the AS: one of them being the full URL (as_uri) and one
> of them being the issuer to be constructed somehow (as_issuer). I ran into
> a similar problem on a system that I built last year where all of our
> servers had discovery documents but not all of them were easily constructed
> from an issuer style URL (using OIDC patterns anyway). So we solved it by
> having two different variables. If the full URL was set, we used that; if
> it wasn’t, we tried the issuer; if neither was set we didn’t do any
> discovery.
>
>
>
> I’m sensitive to Torsten’s concerns about complexity, but I think this is
> a simple and deterministic solution that sidesteps much of the issue. No
> pun intended.
>
>
>
> — Justin
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