Hi Brian,

Your explanation is helpful, makes sense now.

In fact, this makes things very interesting for me because it could provide
a round-about way to do an ac/dc like flow where a client C whose AS1 is in
security domain 1 can swap an access token from AS1 for a JWT to present to
AS2 via a JWT grant type, in exchange for an access token from AS2 to use
at RS2.

I've been bumbed out about ac/dc losing steam because it provided a very
elegant solution for some of my critical use cases, but token exchange is
shaping up to indirectly provide the same functionality.  Awesome :-)



-adam

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Brian Campbell <bcampb...@pingidentity.com>
wrote:

> The intent is that urn:ietf:params:oauth:token-type:access_token be an
> indicator that the token is a typical OAuth access token issued by the AS
> in question, opaque to the client, and usable the same manner as any other
> access token obtained from that AS (it could well be a JWT but the client
> isn't and needn't be aware of that fact). Whereas
> urn:ietf:params:oauth:token-type:jwt is to indicate that a JWT specifically
> is being requested or sent (perhaps in a cross-domain use case to get an
> access token from a different AS like is facilitated by RFC 7523).
>
> Is that helpful at all?
>
> I agree that it can be confusing. But it's representative of the kinds of
> tokens and their usages out there now. So, needs to be allowed. I'd welcome
> ideas about how the language could be improved to help alleviate some of
> the confusion though.
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 7:25 AM, Adam Lewis <
> adam.le...@motorolasolutions.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> There are multiple places in draft-ietf-oauth-token-exchange-04 where a
>> differentiation seems to be drawn between 'access_token' and 'jwt' ... for
>> example in section 2.2.1. when discussing the issued_token_type, it states:
>>
>>       a value of "urn:ietf:params:oauth:token-type:access_token" indicates
>>
>>       that the issued token is an access token and a value of
>>       "urn:ietf:params:oauth:token-type:jwt" indicates that it is a JWT.
>>
>>
>> This is confusing to me because an access token represents a delegated 
>> authorization decision, whereas JWT is a token *format*.  An access token 
>> could easily be a JWT (and in many deployments, they are).
>>
>>
>> So why the desire to differentiate, and what does the differentiation mean?
>>
>>
>>
>> tx!
>> adam
>>
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