I agree with Phil. As currently described it replicates a lot of the
work we have done in PoP.

Ciao
Hannes

On 12/06/2014 09:52 AM, John Bradley wrote:
> No,  this is the the work formerly known as origin bound certificates & 
> Channel ID.   We need this to bind id_tokens and or access tokens to TLS 
> sessions.
> 
> So it is an alternative TLS binding mechanism.   We still need to describe 
> how to use it with OAuth and JWT.
> 
> It is a building block we can use for PoP.
> 
> John B.
>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 10:48 PM, Phil Hunt <phil.h...@oracle.com> wrote:
>>
>> Doesn't that duplicate our current work?
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 11:17, Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject: [websec] unbearable - new mailing list to discuss better than
>>> bearer tokens...
>>> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 16:43:19 +0000
>>> From: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie>
>>> Reply-To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie>
>>> To: s...@ietf.org <s...@ietf.org>, websec <web...@ietf.org>,
>>> u...@ietf.org <u...@ietf.org>, ietf-http...@w3.org Group
>>> <ietf-http...@w3.org>, http-a...@ietf.org <http-a...@ietf.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hiya,
>>>
>>> Following up on the presentation at IETF-91 on this topic, [1]
>>> we've created a new list [2] for moving that along. The list
>>> description is:
>>>
>>> "This list is for discussion of proposals for doing better than bearer
>>> tokens (e.g. HTTP cookies, OAuth tokens etc.) for web applications.
>>> The specific goal is chartering a WG focused on preventing security
>>> token export and replay attacks."
>>>
>>> If you're interested please join in.
>>>
>>> Thanks to Vinod and Andrei for agreeing to admin the list.
>>>
>>> We'll kick off discussion in a few days when folks have had
>>> a chance to subscribe.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> S.
>>>
>>> PS: Please don't reply-all to this, join the new list, wait
>>> a few days and then say what you need to say:-)
>>>
>>> [1] https://tools.ietf.org/agenda/91/slides/slides-91-uta-2.pdf
>>> [2] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/unbearable
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