I will re-iterate here my strong preference that an "unsecured" or
"plaintext" JWS object be syntactically distinct from a real JWS object.
E.g. by having two dot-separated components instead of three.

Beyond that, seems like just shuffling deck chairs.

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Brian Campbell <bcampb...@pingidentity.com>
wrote:

> cc'ing JOSE on a minor JWT review comment that might impact JWS/JWA.
>
> I agree that "plaintext” is not the most intuitive wording choice and that
> "unsecured" might better convey what's going on with the "none" JWS
> algorithm.
>
> Mike mentioned that, if this change is made in JWT, there are parallel
> changes in JWS. But note that there are also such changes in JWA (more than
> in JWS actually).
>
> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Mike Jones <michael.jo...@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> From: Warren Kumari [mailto:war...@kumari.net]
>> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:40 PM
>> To: sec...@ietf.org; draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token....@tools.ietf.org
>> Subject: Review of: draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token
>>
>> I'm a little confused by something in the Terminology section (Section 2):
>>
>> Plaintext JWT
>>
>> A JWT whose Claims are not integrity protected or encrypted.
>>
>> The term plaintext to me means something like "is readable without
>> decrypting / much decoding" (something like, if you cat the file to a
>> terminal, you will see the information). Integrity protecting a string
>> doesn't make it not easily readable. If this document / JOSE uses
>> "plaintext" differently (and a quick skim didn't find anything about
>>
>> this) it might be good to clarify. Section 6 *does* discuss plaintext
>> JWTs, but doesn't really clarify the (IMO) unusual meaning of the term
>> "plaintext" here.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ve discussed this with the other document editors and we agree with you
>> that “plaintext” is not the most intuitive wording choice in this context.
>> Possible alternative terms are “Unsecured JWT” or “Unsigned JWT”.  I think
>> that “Unsecured JWT” is probably the preferred term, since JWTs that are
>> JWEs are also unsigned, but they are secured.  Working group – are you OK
>> with this possible terminology change?  (Note that the parallel change
>> “Plaintext JWS” -> “Unsecured JWS” would also be made in the JWS spec.)
>>
>>
>>
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