For the record, we adjusted draft 01 to make it more compatible with OIDC at the request of the Connect community. I agreed to change it because I can agree that it is a good stepping stone for adoption of Connect. Others may prefer to have a cleanly separate method. I leave that for the group to decide.
The IETF needs a draft that enables and provides user authentication information to clients. Phil @independentid www.independentid.com phil.h...@oracle.com On May 14, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Chuck Mortimore <cmortim...@salesforce.com> wrote: > Can you point to one publicly available or publicly documented implementation > of a4c? I've never seen one. > > I will say the a4c spec is almost 100% overlapped with OpenID Connect. Some > minor variations in claim names, but it adds 0 incremental value over what we > have in Connect. > > Connect is being successfully deployed at large scale. It would be > irresponsible for this working group to confuse developers and the industry > with duplicate work, especially given this feels more like an argument over > signing IPR agreements. > > -cmort > > > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Anthony Nadalin <tony...@microsoft.com> > wrote: > I agree with Phil on this one, there are implementations of this already and > much interest > > > > From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phil Hunt > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:32 AM > To: Brian Campbell > Cc: oauth@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth Milestone Update and Rechartering > > > > On the contrary. I and others are interested. > > > > We are waiting for the charter to pick up the work. > > > > Regardless there will be a new draft shortly. > > > Phil > > > On May 14, 2014, at 5:24, Brian Campbell <bcampb...@pingidentity.com> wrote: > > I would object to 'OAuth Authentication' being picked up by the WG as a work > item. The starting point draft has expired and it hasn't really been > discusses since Berlin nearly a year ago. As I recall, there was only very > limited interest in it even then. I also don't believe it fits well with the > WG charter. > > I would suggest the WG consider picking up 'OAuth Symmetric Proof of > Possession for Code Extension' for which there is an excellent starting point > of http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sakimura-oauth-tcse-03 - it's a > relativity simple security enhancement which addresses problems currently > being encountered in deployments of native clients. > > > > > On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net> > wrote: > > Hi all, > > you might have seen that we pushed the assertion documents and the JWT > documents to the IESG today. We have also updated the milestones on the > OAuth WG page. > > This means that we can plan to pick up new work in the group. > We have sent a request to Kathleen to change the milestone for the OAuth > security mechanisms to use the proof-of-possession terminology. > > We also expect an updated version of the dynamic client registration > spec incorporating last call feedback within about 2 weeks. > > We would like you to think about adding the following milestones to the > charter as part of the re-chartering effort: > > ----- > > Nov 2014 Submit 'Token introspection' to the IESG for consideration as a > Proposed Standard > Starting point: <draft-richer-oauth-introspection-04> > > Jan 2015 Submit 'OAuth Authentication' to the IESG for consideration as > a Proposed Standard > Starting point: <draft-hunt-oauth-v2-user-a4c-01> > > Jan 2015 Submit 'Token Exchange' to the IESG for consideration as a > Proposed Standard > Starting point: <draft-jones-oauth-token-exchange-00> > > ----- > > We also updated the charter text to reflect the current situation. Here > is the proposed text: > > ----- > > Charter for Working Group > > > The Web Authorization (OAuth) protocol allows a user to grant a > third-party Web site or application access to the user's protected > resources, without necessarily revealing their long-term credentials, > or even their identity. For example, a photo-sharing site that > supports OAuth could allow its users to use a third-party printing Web > site to print their private pictures, without allowing the printing > site to gain full control of the user's account and without having the > user share his or her photo-sharing sites' long-term credential with > the printing site. > > The OAuth 2.0 protocol suite encompasses > > * a protocol for obtaining access tokens from an authorization > server with the resource owner's consent, > * protocols for presenting these access tokens to resource server > for access to a protected resource, > * guidance for securely using OAuth 2.0, > * the ability to revoke access tokens, > * standardized format for security tokens encoded in a JSON format > (JSON Web Token, JWT), > * ways of using assertions with OAuth, and > * a dynamic client registration protocol. > > The working group also developed security schemes for presenting > authorization tokens to access a protected resource. This led to the > publication of the bearer token, as well as work that remains to be > completed on proof-of-possession and token exchange. > > The ongoing standardization effort within the OAuth working group will > focus on enhancing interoperability and functionality of OAuth > deployments, such as a standard for a token introspection service and > standards for additional security of OAuth requests. > > ----- > > Feedback appreciated. > > Ciao > Hannes & Derek > > > > _______________________________________________ > OAuth mailing list > OAuth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth > > > > > -- > > > > Brian Campbell > Portfolio Architect > > @ > > bcampb...@pingidentity.com > > > > +1 720.317.2061 > > Connect with us… > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OAuth mailing list > OAuth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth > > > _______________________________________________ > OAuth mailing list > OAuth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth > >
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