I agree with what John wrote below. Besides, PoP is more natural to say than HoK and certainly more natural to say than HOTK. I'd like us to stay with the term Proof-of-Possession (PoP).
-- Mike From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John Bradley Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 11:10 AM To: Phil Hunt Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] New Version Notification for draft-hunt-oauth-pop-architecture-00.txt Some people and specs associate holder of key with asymmetric keys. Proof of possession is thought to be a broader category including symmetric and key agreement eg http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2875. NIST defines the term PoP Protocol http://fismapedia.org/index.php?title=Term:Proof_of_Possession_Protocol In SAML the saml:SubjectConfirmation method is called urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:2.0:cm:holder-of-key In WS* the term proof of possession is more common. So I think for this document as an overview "Proof of Possession (PoP) Architecture" is fine. John B. On Apr 3, 2014, at 12:41 PM, Phil Hunt <phil.h...@oracle.com<mailto:phil.h...@oracle.com>> wrote: What was wrong with HOK? Aside: Why was "the" so important in HOTK? Phil @independentid www.independentid.com<http://www.independentid.com/> phil.h...@oracle.com<mailto:phil.h...@oracle.com> On Apr 3, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Anil Saldhana <anil.saldh...@redhat.com<mailto:anil.saldh...@redhat.com>> wrote: Prateek, why not just use "proof"? draft-hunt-oauth-proof-architecture-00.txt Is that allowed by IETF? Regards, Anil On 04/03/2014 11:30 AM, Prateek Mishra wrote: "key confirmed" or "key confirmation" is another term that is widely used for these use-cases I really *like* the name "proof of possession", but I think the acronym PoP is going to be confused with POP. HOTK has the advantage of not being a homonym for aything else. What about "Possession Proof"? -bill -------------------------------- William J. Mills "Paranoid" MUX Yahoo! On Thursday, April 3, 2014 1:38 AM, "internet-dra...@ietf.org"<mailto:internet-dra...@ietf.org> <internet-dra...@ietf.org><mailto:internet-dra...@ietf.org> wrote: A new version of I-D, draft-hunt-oauth-pop-architecture-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Hannes Tschofenig and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-hunt-oauth-pop-architecture Revision: 00 Title: OAuth 2.0 Proof-of-Possession (PoP) Security Architecture Document date: 2014-04-03 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 21 URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hunt-oauth-pop-architecture-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hunt-oauth-pop-architecture/ Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hunt-oauth-pop-architecture-00 Abstract: The OAuth 2.0 bearer token specification, as defined in RFC 6750, allows any party in possession of a bearer token (a "bearer") to get access to the associated resources (without demonstrating possession of a cryptographic key). To prevent misuse, bearer tokens must to be protected from disclosure in transit and at rest. Some scenarios demand additional security protection whereby a client needs to demonstrate possession of cryptographic keying material when accessing a protected resource. This document motivates the development of the OAuth 2.0 proof-of-possession security mechanism. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org<http://tools.ietf.org/>. The IETF Secretariat _______________________________________________ OAuth mailing list OAuth@ietf.org<mailto:OAuth@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth _______________________________________________ OAuth mailing list OAuth@ietf.org<mailto:OAuth@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth
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