Hi Nadalin,

 

that means, that I would use an existing OAuth-2-Token as the assertion for
requesting another OAuth-2-Token, right?

 

Section 5.2.  "General Assertion Format and Processing Rules" of this draft
says, that the assertion has to contain an Issuer as well as an audience.
The OAuth-2-Token doesn't have such fields by definition, but one can argue,
that it is associated with an issuer (= auth-server) as well with a scope,
which could be seen as the audience in this case.

 

Am I right?

 

Wishes,

Manfred

 

 

 

Von: Anthony Nadalin [mailto:tony...@microsoft.com] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Juli 2013 18:12
An: Prateek Mishra; Manfred Steyer
Cc:  <mailto:oauth@ietf.org> oauth@ietf.org
Betreff: RE: [OAUTH-WG] SAML-like ActAs

 

You can accomplish the ActAs semantics with Assertions profile, while a bit
clumsy the basics are in place, the only issue is that you don't have any
way to indicate the formal semantics

 

From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
Prateek Mishra
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:03 AM
To: Manfred Steyer
Cc: oauth@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML-like ActAs

 

Hi Manfred,

This is an area of interest to us and we have done some profiling in our
implementation.

Generally speaking, we work with the assertion profiles as a starting point.
They allow for WS-Trust
like token exchanges and (implicitly) support ActAs or OnBehalfOf.  But they
do need additional profiling
to offer genuine interoperability in this area.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-oauth-assertions/ 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-oauth-jwt-bearer/   
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-oauth-saml2-bearer/


What use-cases do you have in mind? I am not sure I follow what you mean by
"a resource server could delegate a subset of the delegated rights to
another resource server".

- prateek

 

Hi,

 

are there plans for supporting delegation-styles like ActAs or OnBehalfOf in
SAML?

 

If this was possible, a resource server could delegate a subset of the
delegated rights to another resource server. This could be a very important
thing, when one wants to use OAuth 2 within an enterprise-environment. 

 

I know, that OAuth 2 has been created for web-scenarios, but it's a fact
that OAuth 2 is used as a "REST-friedly" alternative to WS-* in the area of
service-security. 

 

Would it be the right way, to define an Extension Grants for such a
scenario?

 

Wishes,

Manfred

 

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