I can work with that. Thanks.

EHL

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Farrell [mailto:stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 3:25 AM
> To: Eran Hammer-Lahav
> Cc: Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org WG; Peter Saint-Andre
> (stpe...@stpeter.im); 'Adam Barth (a...@adambarth.com)'; Ben Adida
> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Revised OAuth Charter Text
> 
> 
> Hi Eran, all,
> 
> On 09/05/11 18:01, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote:
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig
> >> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 4:25 AM
> >
> >> Goals and Milestones
> >> May 2011    Submit 'HTTP Authentication: MAC Authentication' as a
> >> working group item
> >
> > I am still not convinced this is the right working group for this document.
> This is an active document with a pending -04 version coming this week. Out
> of 26 pages, only 1 discusses OAuth 2.0 (and 2 more pages handle the
> registration requirements). My two co-authors, Adam Barth and Ben Adida
> are not members of this working group. In addition, this working group have
> shown little to no interest this document to date, offering very limited
> feedback.
> >
> > I much rather keep this document as an individual submission discussed on
> apps-discuss, and make sure it includes the HTTPbis, HTTP-State, and OAuth
> working groups in its last call process.
> >
> > I would like to hear what the Stephen (security AD) and Peter (application
> AD) think about the right venue for this draft.
> 
> I chatted briefly with Peter and think that we're both happy that the mac
> draft be done in oauth with additional last call(s) in other relevant places,
> particularly httpbis. Figuring out which places can be done just before wglc
> here.
> 
> Part of the logic for doing it here is that without the mac draft,
> oauth2.0 would appear to be less secure than oauth1.0 which is not an
> outcome I want to see. Taking the mac draft via some other route would
> therefore likely result in delay in getting the mac draft done, and hence 
> delay
> in terms of getting an RFC for oauth2.0.
> If I think the oauth2.0 spec (or set of specs) sent to me as AD is less secure
> than oauth1.0 then I'll almost certainly send it back to the wg to fix that.
> 
> In terms of rechartering this wg - as Barry said the time to discuss that is
> *after* the current work is done, not now. I'm sure there'll be the usual full
> and frank discussion on the list at that point:-) Proposing that the wg close 
> at
> that point is fine and the chairs will I'm sure do a good job of establishing 
> the
> rough consensus on that then.
> 
> And finally, as to the use-cases document, the only, but significant, reason 
> to
> hold it for now, is so it doesn't get in the way of the main work. Even the
> most innocuous and well-written draft can cause plenty of mail and delay so
> let's just shelve that draft for a few months and get done with the main goals
> of the wg.
> 
> I guess given the spurt of mail I'll wait a few days before pushing the 
> charter
> onwards in case the chairs want to tweak something.
> 
> S.
> 

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