Chairs - see request inline. Hi James,
The use case you proposed for an OAuth2 scheme is not about token authentication at all but about relaying authorization server discovery information only. This use case is completely within the realm of discovery, and that is out of scope. There is nothing to prevent another document from taking the time (as you indicated is necessary) to figure out exactly what the requirements are for such a scheme, and to thoroughly map them into the right set of attributes. I believe discovery is still very much undefined and cannot be figured out without significant deployment experience for OAuth 2.0, as well as some stabilization of new grant types and other extensions. Chairs - I would like to ask that you declare all discovery requirements and use cases out of scope for v2 and the working group at this point. --- As for the error code registry and the request Mike posted, I do not think your use case has much to do with the goal Mike has with his registry proposal. Mike's proposal is for v2 to define an error registry for use with an error attribute across different HTTP schemes such as Bearer and MAC, and for that to make sense, we need to define an OAuth2 scheme that *replaces* the Bearer and MAC schemes - something you agree we should not do. EHL From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Manger, James H Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 6:49 PM To: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth2 scheme We should define a "WWW-Authenticate: OAuth2 ..." response header - not to encompass the MAC, Bearer, and any other generic HTTP authentication scheme, but as a way for a server to tell the client that it can perform an OAuth2 get-a-token flow to gain access. When the sort of OAuth2 flow depends on the error with a current token (eg expired vs invalid) then the "WWW-Authenticate: OAuth2 ..." response header needs to reflect this. It could do so be including an error code. A better, more direct, approach is to explicitly identify "refresh flow" and/or "user-delegation flow" and/or "assertion flow" etc. Bearer or OAuth2 WWW-Authenticate response header? The rule should be: #1. If the client can fix an error by sending an "Authorization: Bearer ..." request header (or the query or POST alternative) then the server should return "WWW-Authenticate: Bearer ...". #2. If the client can fix an error by performing an OAuth2 flow at an authorization server then the resource server should return "WWW-Authenticate: OAuth2 ...". The server can return both response headers if both options are possible. There is no point in re-presenting a rejected Bearer token so #1 isn't that useful. It could be appropriate if no token was presented as the client might have a token, but didn't know this resource needed it. It might be appropriate if a client presented a token with insufficient scope as the client might have another token with the right scope so "WWW-Authenticate: Bearer scope=..." could help. #1 is not really necessary when a presented token is invalid or expired as the client needs to get a new one (eg using an OAuth2 flow that is outside the scope of the Bearer scheme). I don't think an error code in a "WWW-Authenticate: Bearer ..." response helps a client retry the request with a "Authorization: Bearer ..." header that will work. An error code might help a client choose the right OAuth2 flow (eg refresh vs new user-delegation) so it might have a place in #2, a "WWW-Authenticate: OAuth2 ..." response header. Eran said to Mike: > Alternatively, if you have use cases or requirements for introducing just the > WWW-Authenticate side of an OAuth2 authorization scheme (your open issue), > which includes an 'error' attribute for use with the proposed registry, > please present those and explain how it will work alongside the Bearer and > MAC schemes (as currently drafted). The "discovery" use-case in this email warrants the WWW-Authenticate side of an OAuth2 scheme. An error attribute (plus a registry) might help, but we need the rest of the details of the response header first. It works well alongside Bearer and MAC schemes: a "WWW-Auth.: OAuth2" response points to OAuth2 flows the client can try; a "WWW-Auth.: MAC/Bearer" response points to retrying a request with "Authz: MAC/Bearer". Even when a client is given multiple options it will know which to choose based on its context (eg if it doesn't have another Bearer token it will ignore the "WWW-Auth: Bearer" response and follow the "WWW-Auth: OAuth2" response). -- James Manger
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