On 2010-03-23, at 12:16 PM, David Recordon wrote: > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Dick Hardt <dick.ha...@gmail.com> wrote: >> David: perhaps if you asked the list about features before dropping >> them we would not all have to argue with you about why to put them >> back in. > > My goal by removing some of the non-obvious things was to encourage > the discussion which has now started! Many of the design decisions > that went into WRAP haven't entirely been shared in public. Since one > of our major goals is developer simplicity it's reasonable to start > with less and justify everything that's being added. As the working > group has seen, I'm really willing to add things back in once the > reasoning has been explained (error codes, SAML flow, etc).
If you wanted to discuss, you could have posted questions about WRAP. I have promptly answered any questions people had. There are numerous changes in the spec where you just did not like the answer I gave you in the past. > > >> Frankly I was surprised that you did not circulate the draft >> to me as editor of WRAP. > > I focused on getting feedback from consumer web deployers of OAuth 1.0 > (Twitter and Digg) who haven't participated in these discussions yet > as they're extremely important to technology adoption. I also spoke > to Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo! as they were the three companies who > developed WRAP together. I'm sorry if I rubbed you the wrong way, but > until this IETF meeting I didn't know that you were planning to deploy > OAuth 2.0 as you were no longer working for Microsoft. This shouldn't > prevent us from working together on making OAuth 2.0 rock. :) Hard to work with you when you just drop a whole bunch of changes and don't discuss them or ask for explanations. I've been actively participating on the IETF list and on the calls. Not sure why I need to be working somewhere for my expertise and opinion to count. This is the IETF after all, and I was the editor of WRAP, so if you were going to incorporate WRAP, then it would seem logical to have included me. And given I have seen you in person numerous times in the last few weeks, it is not like you forgot I existed. Yes, I am miffed. _______________________________________________ OAuth mailing list OAuth@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth
