What paleoclimate study or studies come to the conclusion that the Arctic
was 2-4c warmer 8000 years ago? I would like to read those reports. Could
you provide a link?

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 7:59 PM David Nicosia <[email protected]> wrote:

> All,
>
> In Broome Co we have been fortunate to have had a great year for the
> AMERICAN GOLDEN-PLOVER. That is most definitely related to the drawdown of
> Whitney Point Reservoir which empasses ebird hotspots of Upper Lisle Co.
> Park, Dorchester Park and Keibel Rd.   But, based on looking at Bull's
> comment from his 1974 publication and many of you chiming in on how much
> less common this bird is, what could be causing this decline?   The only
> thing that has changed significantly for this species , especially in the
> last 10-15 years, is the proliferation of wind farms in the central Plains
> and midwest. This is a major migratory pathway for this species especially
> in the spring and still even in the fall. The rapid and continued rapid
> deployment of wind farms in fields where these birds forage and rest on
> their way to the Arctic likely has something to do with the population
> declines.  The Arctic has not warmed much since 2010 and the fact that the
> Arctic was 2-4C warmer 8000 years ago vs today based on paleoclimate
> studies suggests that this is not a major factor.... at least yet. Winter
> grounds look similar and I could not find anything published related to a
> use of a new pesticide or herbicide down there. They also like the wetter
> areas on their winter grounds that are grazed by cattle which hasn't
> changed much. So unless the declines are cyclic related to availability of
> other prey for predators (lemmings etc) the only other thing to consider is
> the rapid increase in wind farms in a major migratory pathway for this
> species. I think as birders we have to be careful supporting wind farms.
> Wind farms and solar farms Which can destroy a lot of field and forest
> habitat DO have an impact on birds. And energy companies don't care about
> this stuff, they want to make money. My contention is that wind farms are
> what is causing the declines in the golden plovers and other shorebirds
> passing through the middle of the country. With projections of a 4 times
> increase in wind farms by 2050, this could be a major issue. If our country
> goes through with this without a commitment from China, Russia or India to
> reduce CO2 emissions it will all be a waste.  So in summary I don't agree
> with Audubon's  position on renewable energy. I think it could have major
> negative impacts for our birds. A climate that is gradually warming likely
> will help birds, not hurt them. Summers without cold rainy periods are good
> for nesting. A warmer less stormy arctic is good for arctic
> nesting shorebirds. When we had a  very chilly summer with leftover snow in
> the Arctic a few years back I remember the nesting season was proclaimed
> really bad by researchers up there. So let's be very careful about
> supporting renewable energy when it leads to destruction of habitat and
> literally death of our birds. I am concerned about the future related to
> this.
>
> Dave
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