Lower NY Bay (Gravesend) and its environs has been the best place in NYC for
Bonaparte's for the last 10 years with 45 eBird records of 100+ birds. They
tend to not hang around long and April and Nov.-Feb. have all the sight
records. 17 of the 45 records were from Nov. 2015-Feb. 2016.
There has been a drop in numbers the last 3 years though there was a flock of
940 in Leonard Kaiser Park on April 16, 2018.
All time Kings County high in eBird is 1150 viewed from Coney Island Creek Park
on Nov. 28, 2015 but I'm sure there are probably older records I don't have in
front of me that may exceed this number.
Regards,Shane BlodgettBrooklyn NY
On Tuesday, October 13, 2020, 09:28:20 PM EDT, [email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote:
Yes, I know, but didn’t want to be accused of exaggerating, and don’t have the
F&F’s at hand.
From: [email protected]
<[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peter Post
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 9:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Thomas Fiore <[email protected]>; NYS Birds <[email protected]>;
Emily Peyton <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l] N.Y. County incl. Manhattan, NYC - 10/12
- Bonaparte's Gulls / (etc.)
I believe It’s been down for longer than that Check Xmas Bird Counts for exact
years and details. We used to get large numbers at such places as Pt. Lookout,
for example. But no longer There’s been a change in ecology or something in
region 10. Yet there are still large numbers of Bonaparte’s being seen on the
Great Lakes and to the south of us in the mid-Atlantic States.
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On Oct 13, 2020, at 8:08 PM, [email protected] wrote:
My purely subjective impression – which runs counter to web ‘wisdom’ of
increasing species populations – is that the number of Bonies around NYC
(exclusive of eastern LI, where I don’t go) has been down for about 2-3 years.
Anybody agree?
From: [email protected]
<[email protected]> On Behalf Of Thomas Fiore
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:48 AM
To: NYS Birds <[email protected]>
Cc: Peter W. Post <[email protected]>
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l] N.Y. County incl. Manhattan, NYC - 10/12 -
Bonaparte's Gulls / (etc.)
Thanks, Peter -
I had not realized there were records for those kinds of numbers or frequency
all the way into New York County waters in that period; I’d understood them as
more so in Kings County/Brooklyn waters, & of course elsewhere in the wider
region, referring in particular to Bonaparte’s Gull, rather than the rarer two
species of gull you also referenced. If only this were so cuurently! I wonder
then, when the last of sightings of Bonaparte’s Gull in New York County waters
were which included even -for example- 100+ individuals, much less thousands on
one day. Thank you for the historical information!
Tom Fiore
manhattan
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On Oct 13, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Peter W. Post <[email protected]> wrote:
Tom:
Bonaparte’s Gull were historically common to abundant in New York County. Into
the 1960’s they occurred as spring and fall migrants and winter visitors in New
York Harbor and along the Hudson River. Up to 5,000+ birds could be seen on a
single day as far north as the George Washington Bridge. Mixed in among them
was an occasional Black-headed or Little Gull. It was during that time period
that Black-headed Gulls occurred in Central Park and Little Gulls could
regularly be seen in May from the Staten island Ferry (where they would feed
with Bonaparte’s Gulls in the Rip Tide off the south shore Governor’s Island).
Peter (Post)
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On Oct 13, 2020, at 7:12 AM, Thomas Fiore <[email protected]> wrote:
Monday, “Indigenous Peoples’ Day”, Oct. 12th
New York County (in N.Y. City)
3 Bonaparte’s Gulls were noted moving south down the Hudson river, in early
afternoon (A. Farnsworth) - although a very ‘rare’ sighting for the county,
this species is almost certainly annual of occurrence in the county, and the
Hudson river possibly the best site to be on the watch for them on passage.
(They are 'extremely rare' as stop-in-&-stay-a-while visitors to the county, in
terms of the historic records but again, it’s worth keeping eyes open for this
& other unexpected larids, and especially at these times of the year when much
movement is occurring).
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