Similar, in that for rails 5 or rails 6, many projects had a JS front-end - 
Vue.js was pretty popular at one point, whilst react was very popular it felt 
like overkill for many use cases. 

I actually gave up on the front-end side, as the JS side was just changing all 
the time, and it was too much to keep up with. It felt like Rails 5 / 6 was a 
bit of a mess on the front-end, ymmv.
There was plenty of Backend / Rails API work at the time in Berlin, so no 
biggy. It's pretty rare that one person can be good at BE and FE, though 
there's much blagging of this fullstack aspect - better to understand how to 
interact with the customer and their needs before this IMHO. A team of 2 is 
still a small team afterall.

Back in the Rails 2/3/4 days I used to quite like the Prototype coupling, and 
ease of creating rich/interactive front-ends. However, I full got the argument 
that this coupling was too much. Jquery still sometimes get used. 

I slightly worry that they'll break things with rails 8 and the momentum gained 
with rails 7 will be lost. Lots of rails work is now done in eastern europe, 
phillipines, india. Not as many people using it western europe now. 

Hoping to make the Sarejevo or Romania Rails conferences later in the year. 


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From: DAZ <daz4...@gmail.com>
To: "North West Ruby User Group (NWRUG)" <nwrug-members@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [NWRUG] Hotwire v React
Date: Tuesday, 23 April 2024 18:52

Okay everyone ... this 'debate' got going on another thread I started.

I've used React before and have found using Turbo frames and Stimulus to be 
like a breath of fresh air, especially how well they integrate with the rest of 
the Rails stack. 

Other people have said that it can quickly get messy and React is needed for 
anything complex.

Would love to hear everyone's thoughts?


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